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Old 09-27-2014, 03:09 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Good for those kids. Conservatives continue to curse this land with their regressive ideas.
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Old 09-27-2014, 03:26 PM
 
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No, those hooligans protesting, demanding they be lied to... are.
Here comes the damage control.
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Old 09-28-2014, 01:31 AM
 
Location: Carmichael, CA
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In my area, the U.S. history college component is split into two classes. I took the first class back when, enjoyed it, but then dropped out of college.

I returned to college not too long ago and took the 2nd U.S. history class. It was nasty. The teacher spent the whole quarter extolling the evils of the United States and apparently according to that teacher and that history book no single person that ever existed in the United States ever did a good or decent thing. Ever.

I was taken aback by how history has been rewritten in the last 20 years.

Maybe before everyone jumps on the "poor students" bandwagon, get hold of a current history textbook and see what you think. You might be surprised.
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Old 09-28-2014, 01:50 AM
 
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Education is being taught how to think when provided with facts. Indoctrination is be being taught what to think and the facts don't matter.

Civil Disobedience that creates change is often born among students who find conditions they can't accept.
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Old 09-28-2014, 02:29 AM
 
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Students in Colorado have been practicing civil disobedience over a proposal by three Conservative school board members that seeks to rewrite history and minimize the teaching of civil disobedience:

"The school board proposal that triggered the walkouts calls for instructional materials that present positive aspects of the nation and its heritage. It would establish a committee to regularly review texts and course plans, starting with Advanced Placement history, to make sure materials “promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free-market system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights” and don’t “encourage or condone civil disorder, social strife or disregard of the law.”

Denver students stage walkout over whitewashing history | Al Jazeera America

Good on the students. It seems it's the Conservatives here who need some lessons in history. This country was founded on civil disobedience and disregard for the law.
conservatives are very radical and so predictable.

conservatives don't want history taught in schools.

conservatives want pro American propaganda taught.

This is one of the main critiques that conservatives make over and over again about education is that students aren't taught real American history.

And what is real American history to conservatives?


It's pro American propaganda hiding as American history.

That's government indoctrination that's the text book definition of state sponsored indoctrination.

A school board approving or disapproving of history based not on historical accuracy, but on whether thypey believe the history lesson is pro American enough.


This is the conservative gambit to get Americans to be American in the "right" way. To view their American heritage based on warped conservative ideology and propaganda.


Everything that conservatives accuse public education of doing is in reality what conservatives want to institute.

conservatives use words like indoctrination and propaganda to describe public education, but this is what they want to institute.

conservatives believe that everyone thinks like they do and sees history as a tool for propaganda.

So conservatives believe this is how history is taught in classrooms now as a tool for propaganda.

In the conservative mindset that tool might as well be pro American.

SMh, the radical nature of modern conservatism is not hidden. There is no need for hyperbole. Just read what they wrote. They are saying they want to judge history not on accuracy alone, but based on how pro American it is. That is straight up indoctrination programming by the government.
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Old 09-28-2014, 03:13 AM
 
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No, it's a lame attempt at not teaching kids the whole story, that colonies become sovereign nations when the colonists don't agree with colonial authority and rise against it and revolt.

What colonists? Those were a few rich slave owners who didn't feel like paying taxes to the crown.
Most of the colonist didn't give a damn about any revolutions as the Crown was a benevolent ruler: no tyranny, no death squads or abuse we had a limited autonomy, we had freedom.
Our revolution was all about taxes for the rich or the 1%'ers as we would call them today.
Somehow they who managed to rally public support for their revolt on the pretence of national pride of the nation that did not exist yet...

C'mon. If we want to teach history let's teach it right...

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Old 09-28-2014, 04:00 AM
 
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we need more 6 year olds whining and crying about what their being brainwashed with. I take these children very seriously.
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Old 09-28-2014, 04:03 AM
 
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conservatives are very radical and so predictable.

conservatives don't want history taught in schools.

conservatives want pro American propaganda taught.

This is one of the main critiques that conservatives make over and over again about education is that students aren't taught real American history.

And what is real American history to conservatives?


It's pro American propaganda hiding as American history.

That's government indoctrination that's the text book definition of state sponsored indoctrination.

A school board approving or disapproving of history based not on historical accuracy, but on whether thypey believe the history lesson is pro American enough.


This is the conservative gambit to get Americans to be American in the "right" way. To view their American heritage based on warped conservative ideology and propaganda.


Everything that conservatives accuse public education of doing is in reality what conservatives want to institute.

conservatives use words like indoctrination and propaganda to describe public education, but this is what they want to institute.

conservatives believe that everyone thinks like they do and sees history as a tool for propaganda.

So conservatives believe this is how history is taught in classrooms now as a tool for propaganda.

In the conservative mindset that tool might as well be pro American.

SMh, the radical nature of modern conservatism is not hidden. There is no need for hyperbole. Just read what they wrote. They are saying they want to judge history not on accuracy alone, but based on how pro American it is. That is straight up indoctrination programming by the government.
well that gave me a headache. jesus christ. fyi, as a conservative, I don't think there should be public schools. that just mutilated your little theories of what conservatives want taught in schools.
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Old 09-28-2014, 04:07 AM
 
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fascism starts at home and is nurtured in the classroom, if allowed to, by society.
Any fear of dissent is fear of freedom. Thank God dissent is taught in the home, nurtured in the classroom and allowed by society.
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Old 09-28-2014, 04:12 AM
 
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well that gave me a headache. jesus christ. fyi, as a conservative, I don't think there should be public schools. that just mutilated your little theories of what conservatives want taught in schools.
The idea of public schools originated in the 1790's. What are you trying to "conserve"? Yes, history is important. Without history, one has a hard time knowing what to conserve.
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