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Just like section 8 housing. They love to prop up someone for it cause it makes em feel good like helping someone, as long as its in your neighborhood not theirs. A section 8 house where grass grows 4 foot tall, drugs are sold and 8 tenants live when only a single family is suppose to is ok as long as its away from their front window view.
Why do you think we should do away with it, and limit house to being on a full acre of land, price out the slum lords....They will call us names, I do not care...
I have cleared apartments, I have found pizza in air vents and feces in the walls...And that is not the top of the worse of the worse list...
Why do you think we should do away with it, and limit house to being on a full acre of land, price out the slum lords....They will call us names, I do not care...
I have cleared apartments, I have found pizza in air vents and feces in the walls...And that is not the top of the worse of the worse list...
You know I am not against helping other overcome and move up, not against being taxed (within reason) to support it including section 8. But there has to be tighter guidelines you can't just give somebody something when they don't appreciate it and expect a positive outcome.
However I have seen section 8 time and time again become over grown, over occupied drug dealing houses, once was right across the street from me in a otherwise well kept safe hood.
But like voting taxes then fleeing them, they do the same with things like section 8. If that ever happened across their street they would move away but then vote it again somewhere else.
Why live in high tax, high crime, low freedom states when you can live in low tax, low cost, low crime, free states? You will not, you will move.
Crime isn't higher in the NE though, nor is crime lower in the South.
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No, it proves it wrong..
No it doesn't. The homicide rate is 5.5 for the south and 3.7 for the NE, so my point doesn't change. Even if you look at cities by overall crime rate, the NE still comes up on top.
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Why live in high tax, high crime, low freedom states when you can live in low tax, low cost, low crime, free states? You will not, you will move.
I've been to most states. I'm actually only missing 6. I've also been to 30+ countries and most everywhere in Canada.
I live in a higher cost state because the lower cost states suck. Plenty of them are far from low crime and there's not a ton of freedom there. Nothing about a bunch of bible thumping morons shoving their religion down your throat says freedom. You're kidding yourself if you think that world exists.
Ask one of those dry counties in the south if they're really free.
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No it doesn't. The homicide rate is 5.5 for the south and 3.7 for the NE, so my point doesn't change. Even if you look at cities by overall crime rate, the NE still comes up on top.
Don't go bringing logic into this when you're debating with the emotionally charged, uneducated types.
One thing to keep in mind is many (though granted not all) of those who leave the northeast for the south are retirees.
The cost of living is higher in the northeast no question about it, but so are incomes for the most part. Once retirement hits, the salary gap isn't there anymore so it will make sense for many people to move to a lower cost of living area. Not to mention because of supply and demand, values are larger in the northeast so many people, especially retirees can get a nice bank rollby selling there high value northeast property for something cheaper in the south.
You know I am not against helping other overcome and move up, not against being taxed (within reason) to support it including section 8. But there has to be tighter guidelines you can't just give somebody something when they don't appreciate it and expect a positive outcome.
However I have seen section 8 time and time again become over grown, over occupied drug dealing houses, once was right across the street from me in a otherwise well kept safe hood.
But like voting taxes then fleeing them, they do the same with things like section 8. If that ever happened across their street they would move away but then vote it again somewhere else.
I am not against helping either, but moving the problems of the inner cities to the suburbs is not helping.
One thing to keep in mind is many (though granted not all) of those who leave the northeast for the south are retirees.
The cost of living is higher in the northeast no question about it, but so are incomes for the most part. Once retirement hits, the salary gap isn't there anymore so it will make sense for many people to move to a lower cost of living area. Not to mention because of supply and demand, values are larger in the northeast so many people, especially retirees can get a nice bank rollby selling there high value northeast property for something cheaper in the south.
The incomes are higher on average, why? Because they can not afford them to live there and leave, therefore those that stay have a higher income on average is slightly higher because the number of lower income people in the state is less then what is was before hand.
SNOW!!! I HATE SNOW!!!!!!!!
SO I moved to FLorida - no snow. I don't mind heat.
But I LOVE a City. Fortunately, FL does have cities. Vibrant, active, noisy, busy, cultured cities - at least a few of them. And I live right in the heart of the City.
But that's ME. Others prefer rural. Others prefer suburban.
And most of the 20somethings I know, once they graduate from college, want to move to cities like NYC or Philly or CHicago or LA. They don't like the suburbs - not much there for them. And even less in rural areas. But again, it's just a matter of lifestyle choice.
There are just lots & lots of reasons for the population shift, not necessarily taxes.
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