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Weird, I got to pick the insurance plan that I wanted, I had several to choose from. Does your state only have one plan?
If I have ten items, then I pick out three items out of the ten. I then go to you and let you pick one item out of the three, is that still freedom to pick the item that is best for you? Or is letting you pick one item out of the entire 10 available?
I still don't understand this desire of the left to make decisions for other people. Do you think people are too dumb to make decisions for themselves?
I'm a 2-time Obama voter who would like to see it repealed and replaced with a single-payer plan.
We'll never see that in this country in my lifetime, and public anger about Obamacare is a big reason for that.
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Originally Posted by biscuitmom
The big problem with most polls is they don't give enough options.
The big problem is that the law is absolute garbage written by the insurance lobby. It was designed for and passed to take care of special interests. It has nothing to do with health care reform.
If I have ten items, then I pick out three items out of the ten. I then go to you and let you pick one item out of the three, is that still freedom to pick the item that is best for you? Or is letting you pick one item out of the entire 10 available?
I still don't understand this desire of the left to make decisions for other people. Do you think people are too dumb to make decisions for themselves?
How many health insurance plans do you sign up for at any given time? Also, you can still pick one out of those ten options because those would be the options any insurance company would be offering.
Why would you want to give an insurance company money for a policy that doesn't cover anything? Tell me how that makes sense? Apparently you are upset because you can't give money to a company that doesn't cover anything with their junk policies.
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If I have ten items, then I pick out three items out of the ten. I then go to you and let you pick one item out of the three, is that still freedom to pick the item that is best for you? Or is letting you pick one item out of the entire 10 available?
I still don't understand this desire of the left to make decisions for other people. Do you think people are too dumb to make decisions for themselves?
Still my employer made the choice of my insurance FOR ME?? They chose insurance, plans that insurance GAVE THEM???NOT ME to chose? They chose THE EXCLUSIONS CO-PAYS AND DEDUCTABLE AMOUNT?? THE PLANS they choose from are merely HOW MANY EXCLUSIONS AND OUT OF MY POCKET EXPENSE I GET. I chose merely a option 1 for non-smokers or option 2, where you pay more.
I DONT GET THESE 100s OF CHOICES?? WHAT? ....HOW MANY EXCUTIONS. TO CHOOSE???SOME CHOICES.
I REMEMBER WHEN INSURANCE MENT A GUARENTEE. ALL WAS PAID. NO LIE.
--- Just now.... my employer can say...YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT WE CHOSE FOR YOU????GO SEE OBAMACARE.
The problem arises for someone like myself. I would like to take a 3-4 months off next year to go to Asia to spend time with my old parents.. during this time I don't want to carry health insurance since I will be in India where health care is very cheap, if something happens to me I will just pay cash for it (for example open heart surgery in India costs around $25,000 as opposed to $300,000 here in the US). Under Obamacare I am banned from doing that which I personally think is unconstitutional.
When I get back I am going to be self employed and buy a high deductible ($5000) policy. I have always taken such a policy during periods when I was a consultant in the past. It costs about $170/mo. for me as opposed to Obamacare Bronze which costs $350/mo. The reason the premiums are low is because a lot of the insurance payout is for trivial things under $5k. I am not really concerned about being covered for such trivial matters. I am more concerned about coverage for events that could possibly bankrupt me - such as being diagnosed with cancer or having a heart attack. I KNOW and I'm smart enough to understand how to manage my own risk, the government does not know me.
I don't understand why I don't have my own option of choosing the right policy for me based on the risk level I am willing to assume. I am a very healthy 40 year old and the chances that I will need emergency care are low. In addition I choose to assume the risk of paying for expenses within my deductible myself in exchange for a lower premium.
With Obamacare the policy that Obama deems fit is shoved down my throat whether I like it or not costing me twice as much.
I take care of my health and I am forced to subsidize those that do not - those that are obese, smoke and generally abuse their bodies.
Nothing is being done to actually reduce the cost of healthcare, reduce the consumption of diseases causing foods and increase subsidies to those who maintain a healthy lifestyle.
Also, as I recall the ACA was a big issue in the last presidential election. Given the election results and the current polling, it's hard to make the case that the majority of voters oppose the ACA.
This whole thread is based upon that fact..
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Originally Posted by jacqueg
I concentrate on voters, because they are the voices that, literally, count. I know of no way to tell for certain whether voters are a representative sample of all US citizens.
Thats not true.
We are a representative Republic, not a Democracy.
We elect people to do whats in the best interest of the nation, not those who vote. if you count those only who "vote", then this leaves out a large segment of the nation who has no voice, albeit their fault, or for other reasons.
How many health insurance plans do you sign up for at any given time? Also, you can still pick one out of those ten options because those would be the options any insurance company would be offering.
Why would you want to give an insurance company money for a policy that doesn't cover anything? Tell me how that makes sense? Apparently you are upset because you can't give money to a company that doesn't cover anything with their junk policies.
how nice, we went from thousands of choices, to 10..
Democratic success.. give us less and charge us more.
How many health insurance plans do you sign up for at any given time? Also, you can still pick one out of those ten options because those would be the options any insurance company would be offering.
Why would you want to give an insurance company money for a policy that doesn't cover anything? Tell me how that makes sense? Apparently you are upset because you can't give money to a company that doesn't cover anything with their junk policies.
Note, prior to Obama, this "junk policies" wasnt a word in our vocabulary.. People for the most part liked what they had..
Now, if you dont like ACA, you had a junk policy, even if you didnt..
Whats it feel like to defend getting less while paying more, while kicking millions off of insurance that they had?
I'd be embarassed, you're proud of it.. weird sense of morality you have
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