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View Poll Results: Should Obama finally stop flights between US and Liberia, etc during the Ebola outbreak?
Yes, Stop the flights, Obama should admit he was wrong 54 93.10%
No, Obama was falsely confident that Ebola wouldn't get here, but he is also confident that we can handle Ebola here 4 6.90%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-02-2014, 05:20 AM
 
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Obama said that he wouldn't stop flights to/from Ebola outbreak countries so aid workers can flow freely to help.

Obama said that it was highly unlikely Ebola would find its way in to the US.

Now that Obama is clearly wrong, should he admit his mistake and stop flights between the few countries with the Ebola outbreak and the US? Other countries have done this. Of course, special permits could allow aid workers to fly in to nearby countries and then travel in to Liberia, etc...

White House: We Won’t Stop People From Ebola-Stricken Countries Coming To US | The Daily Caller

Why hasn’t the U.S. closed its airports to travelers from Ebola-ravaged countries? - The Washington Post
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Old 10-02-2014, 05:25 AM
 
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He won't until he can use the crisis to push through some agenda.
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:18 AM
 
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The feds are doing their best to spread disease in the US by shipping busloads of illegal immigrants to random cities far from the border. Obama must have read an AQ handbook taken when UBL was assasinated.

Let's wait for obamacare medical ethicist Ezechial Emanuel to tell us what Obama really meant when he said ebola would not find its way into the USA. Tough to do when we send 3,000 troops to ensure the construction of a handfull of health centers when hundreds are needed. More symbolism under the standard pretense.... "for our safety and benefit".

This is obama trying to one up GWB and his efforts to eliminate aids in Africa. Trying for a 2nd Nobel peace prize, this time was imperceptibly doing something rather than doing absolutely nothing.

Again we see the D-party and social justice mentality that thinks only in black and white, all or nothing at all and establishes zero thresholds. Avoids of thought, personal responsibility and judgement calls making the government the sole source of allowable behavior and our destiny for fear of the legal slippery slope and of course 'for our own good'.

The feds can easily ban all flights and issue permits as needed......unless the government is pure robotics that run on non artificial inteeligence programs, and only with hard edits.
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:36 AM
 
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I believe that the Ebola patient flew from Africa to Europe, and then to the US. How would banning flights from Africa to the US have stopped the current situation?

Are you proposing that the world quarantine Africa?
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Old 10-02-2014, 06:55 AM
 
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Are you proposing that the world quarantine Africa?
Do you believe that would be a bad thing? If so, why?
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:09 AM
 
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Do you believe that would be a good thing? If so, why?
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:16 AM
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I think that banning 'flights' is akin to proclaiming that we must 'secure our borders'. Easy to say, but more difficult to actually do.

As noted, the Ebola man of Dallas did not fly here directly from Liberia, but apparently flew first to Belgium, then possibly Washington DC (according to one online paper), and then to Dallas. So addressing 'flights' will not work, unless we stop all flights incoming from beyond our borders.

Now, cancelling Visas from Liberia and the other 'hot spot' countries would be more appropriate. I would support such a move. But, even then, our security from Ebola is not absolute. Our world is certainly 'small' when it comes to air flights.
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:29 AM
 
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Can you find a flight going to Liberia? I can't. A president can't stop all flights from a country. Think about the connecting flights, and stay overs in other courtiers. I think you have an over-inflated view of what presidents can and cannot control.
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Old 10-02-2014, 08:12 AM
 
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A couple of months ago - the FAA 'banned' all commercial flights to Israel for a short period. So yes - a President CAN stop all flights to or from a country. Since there are NO direct flights from West Africa to the USA anymore (Delta suspended their flight in late August) - no "ban" of any sort is needed.

A hold on Visa's from W. Africa might be a prudent measure.
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Old 10-02-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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I believe that the Ebola patient flew from Africa to Europe, and then to the US.
Wouldn't he require a visa to enter the US? If so, why not suspend visas to people from those countries. Sure, it wouldn't stop everyone, but it would have stopped this guy.
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