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There has never been a communist government... ever.
The USSR was a state capitalist society... it was planned that way, and developed that way. It's not socialism and definitely not communism if the people aren't in control of the means of production and aren't sharing everything equally.
If the means of production are publicly owned, then it is socialism. It doesn't matter if the people are in control or if they are sharing everything equally. That's communism, not socialism. Noam Chomsky is a language professor and his word on government carries no more weight than any man off the street.
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I would easily choose extreme left over extreme right. An egalitarian culture is objectively better than a hierarchical one.
No, it isn't. Neither one is objectively better. There are way too many specifics to consider to make a generalized statement like that.
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Fascism is extreme right because it is the most extreme example of a hierarchical society...
Fascism is extreme left, not extreme right. It's just leftists trying to score political points who paint fascism as right wing. The actual tenets of fascism are leftist - they universally involve centralized power. Centralized power is left wing, not right wing. Right wing is localized power.
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Whites deserve more rights than everyone else
The military is more important than ordinary people
This kind of art is better than that kind of art
Thank you for proving my point. That is a list of strawmen made up by you and assigned to the right wing.
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On this board, the right wingers think that they deserve more because they 'work harder' than people who have less.
etc. etc.
The left wingers on this board also think that, so that makes no point. Everyone thinks that except communists. Even people heavily into wealth redistribution don't advocate redistributing all the wealth. The concept of private property exists all along the political spectrum except in communism. From each according to his ability to each according to his needs is communism, not merely left wing.
Nazis aren't "far right" by the modern American standard though. Nobody with 'Socialist' in their name would be classified as right-wing in American politics today.
Remember, Tea Party people are 'crazy anarchists who want to eliminate all government'...
Depending on who you ask, one extreme side would be the worst. If the extreme leftists had their way, would society be better off? The same applies to the extreme right. If they had their way, would society be better off? Explain your reasoning. Historical examples can definitely be used. Also, if you are going to call a society of the past part of the extreme left/right, provide examples.
For example, if you think the extreme left is a problem because of say, China or the USSR, explain what it was about these societies that make it "left leaning" and why society didn't benefit. The same applies for those who are anti-right.
In America, the extreme left doesn't really exist or extreme leftist views are marginalized
Extreme rightwing views are the norm of today's conservative party.
Depending on who you ask, one extreme side would be the worst. If the extreme leftists had their way, would society be better off? The same applies to the extreme right. If they had their way, would society be better off? Explain your reasoning. Historical examples can definitely be used. Also, if you are going to call a society of the past part of the extreme left/right, provide examples.
For example, if you think the extreme left is a problem because of say, China or the USSR, explain what it was about these societies that make it "left leaning" and why society didn't benefit. The same applies for those who are anti-right.
In America, the extreme left doesn't really exist or extreme leftist views are marginalized
Extreme rightwing views are the norm of today's conservative party.
I'd say in general conservatism is much more devastating and much more common because human societies tend to be conservative as in hierarchal, with power resting with a small elite, and the rest of the citizens working to fuel the wealth and power of that elite, while the government does nothing for most citizens and basically functions to serve this small elite.
Extreme left and extreme right come full circle and meet each other in the same place - totalitarianism. Economic tyranny from the left is really no different than social tyranny from the right. Both ideologies need to be extinguished, which shouldn't be difficult, but, alas, non-rational, misled do-gooders and power-hungry narcissists will always attempt to sway the masses to one or another extreme.
Extreme left = Communism and extreme right = fascism right?
I guess the far right is slightly worse. Communists will be very controlling and suppressive, but real communism would mean that everyone is equal, so no one would be persecuted for the ethnicity, but maybe for having a religion.
Whereas the BNP and Hitlers views are more about purity of a certain race, for example the "British National Party" believe that the Anglo race are pure and the dominant "race" of humans, everyone else is seen as lesser people, Jews and Muslims would probably be persecuted the most under the BNP if they toke power. So basically I think that the Fascism would cause more deaths, they will try to kill people off to the extent that only the "pure" race are on the planet. If Hitler would have won the war and toke over the world (thank god that didn't happen!), then he would have probably killed anyone that wasn't white or had a religion of any kind, in fact, Hitler would have probably thanked the Japaneses by massacring them to their deaths.
So in short, the far left sees everyone as equals, the far right sees a race as superior and everyone else as in-superior. That is why I believe that the far right is worse...
Extreme left = Communism and extreme right = fascism right?
I guess the far right is slightly worse. Communists will be very controlling and suppressive, but real communism would mean that everyone is equal, so no one would be persecuted for the ethnicity, but maybe for having a religion.
Whereas the BNP and Hitlers views are more about purity of a certain race, for example the "British National Party" believe that the Anglo race are pure and the dominant "race" of humans, everyone else is seen as lesser people, Jews and Muslims would probably be persecuted the most under the BNP if they toke power. So basically I think that the Fascism would cause more deaths, they will try to kill people off to the extent that only the "pure" race are on the planet. If Hitler would have won the war and toke over the world (thank god that didn't happen!), then he would have probably killed anyone that wasn't white or had a religion of any kind, in fact, Hitler would have probably thanked the Japaneses by massacring them to their deaths.
So in short, the far left sees everyone as equals, the far right sees a race as superior and everyone else as in-superior. That is why I believe that the far right is worse...
When I think of the word 'fascism,' I tend to think about Benito Mussolini, one of the things he said about fascism:
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Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state & corporate power.
about capitalism:
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I do not intend to defend capitalism or capitalists. They, like everything human, have their defects. I only say their possibilities of usefulness are not ended.
Capitalism has borne the monstrous burden of the war and today still has the strength to shoulder the burdens of peace. ...
It is not simply and solely an accumulation of wealth, it is an elaboration, a selection, a co-ordination of values which is the work of centuries. ...
Many think, and I myself am one of them, that capitalism is scarcely at the beginning of its story.
O'course he was speaking about his time. Although I continue to wonder. If fascism is the sometimes 'unholy' marriage of state & corporate power, folks all over the spectrum still seem to seek marriages of convenience.
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