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Old 10-05-2014, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Subconscious Syncope, USA (Northeastern US)
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Lol, if fate has it that I simply MUST be murdered-----I'd like to order a bullet to the back of my head, preferably while I am sleeping please! Thanks.


Sadly, "Archie's" real-life son commited suicide.

 
Old 10-05-2014, 10:44 AM
 
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Originally Posted by T-310 View Post
The Brits will never get the issue.

That's eight minutes of my life I will never get back.
Agreed! They don't.
But Germans don't get it as well. And Italians, Belgians, French, Spaniards, Portuguese, Japanese, Taiwanese. I almost forgot to mention the Dutch, Irish, Czechs, Romanians, Canadians and Sweedes.
Did I mention Brazilians, ...
Yeah baby, none of them like freedom!
 
Old 10-05-2014, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Putting guns in schools? Damn good idea if you are a small, skinny, badly nearsighted science geek terrified by the jocks and bullies. I remember Jr. HS and they are not pleasant memories. Carrying a gun would have made my life more pleasant or certainly less bruising.
Actually, all that is necessary is to repeal the Gun-Free School Zone Act of 1990. That moronic law has caused more than a 300% increase in school shootings between 1990 and 2014, when compared to the number of school shootings between 1966 and 1990.

It is as if Democrats want our children to be shot, so they created massacre magnets and called them Gun-Free School Zones.
 
Old 10-05-2014, 11:01 AM
 
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If you're whole argument is supported by making false comparisons, then yes I'm sure it can be seen as a bad argument for those false comparisons. The US is significantly different in culture and attitudes to Europe, even the UK. That counts for sure.
You said: "The US is significantly different in culture and attitudes to Europe, even the UK." LOL The are no countries in the world more similar to the US than Canada, Australia and the UK because:

1) all of them based on anglo-saxon culture just like the US
2) all of them being at some point part of the British empire, just like the US
3) all of them (predominantly) English speaking countries, just like the US
4) all of them prdominantly protestant countries, just like the US
5) all of them with legal systems based on English rather than Napoleonic law, just like the US
6) two of them, Canada and Australia being former British colonies, just like the US
7) two of them, Canada and Australia, NOT being located in Europe, yet founded by Europeans, just like the US
8) one of them, Canada, located right here in Northern America, just like the US
9) All of them rich, industrialized and democratic countries, just like the US
10) All of them have similar foreign policies and fought on the same side as Americans in the last two global conflicts

Seriously, you CANNOT find countries more similar to the US culturally, historically, legally or ethinically than Canada, Australia and the UK...


All three of them, Canada, Australia and the UK, however, have homicide rates few times lower than ours and super strict gun control laws, let's just compare some stats:

Homicide rate:

Canada - 1.6
Australia - 1.1
the UK - 1.0
the US - 4.7

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Now we all know why are you so afraid of comparing the US to other countries - it proves that gun control leads to lower crime on all of the continents

Are you scared of the facts? LOL

Last edited by random_thoughts; 10-05-2014 at 12:01 PM..
 
Old 10-05-2014, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I have to sort of agree.

Brits have lost their stones.... Those boys used to run roughshod over the whole damn world...... America gets the rap of being the villains of the last century, but pick up a history book, the Brits have done more thought out history in terms of raping terrorizing and colonizing areas all over the world.

There's a reason that the phrase "The sun never sets on the British empire" was created....
Just consider the violence the Brits (and other Europeans) visit upon one another over a soccer game; they're probably too violent a bunch to be trusted with firearms.

But seriously, they're even considering taking away pointy kitchen knives. There's not a very trusting relationship between the government and the governed there. Explains why their government won't sign a constitution.

BBC NEWS | Health | Doctors' kitchen knives ban call
 
Old 10-05-2014, 11:38 AM
 
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First off there are many Europeans can not even comprehend way the American Revolution happen and King George. The perception of guns in Europe is very closed opinion because they prefer to be in a Cradle to Grave life style. Sad!

Americans do not carry open like many think, but our side arms are accessible in time of urgent life threating need. Europeans do not have that initiative to do that. They would rather wait for Scotland Yard to show up when ever.

America has a untapped army of Citizens who are active hunters. There was a thread on this and the numbers are big and that's way we have not been invaded.

the United Kingdom and Europe is finding put about radical Muslims in Europe. It will be interesting how they handle that.
Comprehending is not a failure for Europeans as they've had WAY more revolutions than you have. And they've also been a nation of hunters before yours was able to eat red meat. They do not think you all open carry and for you to suggest they do shows how little you know about any other country.

They do not feel the need or the desire to carry around a panacea for a non-existent fear over a as yet non-manifested occurrence of violence against their person.

Cradle to grave lifestyle, whooha! What do you call your welfare, medicare, Medicaid, EBT cards, ObamaPhones, the VA, even the nonsense of sub-prime mortgage rates that caused the global meltdown was due to your love affair with a the so-called "cradle to grave" lifestyle. The OTHER countries did not arrange "special" mortgages for people who could not afford to buy homes.

The other countries have all sustained terrorist attacks, in some cases whole decades before your terrible one, but are not running around like chicken little creating one agency after another, all bent on the abrogation of their civil liberties while selling them bullcrap on the premise it makes them feel safer.

C'mon here; if ever there would be a post better characterized as the pot calling the kettle black; it's yet to be written.
 
Old 10-05-2014, 12:20 PM
 
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Just consider the violence the Brits (and other Europeans) visit upon one another over a soccer game; they're probably too violent a bunch to be trusted with firearms.

But seriously, they're even considering taking away pointy kitchen knives. There's not a very trusting relationship between the government and the governed there. Explains why their government won't sign a constitution.

BBC NEWS | Health | Doctors' kitchen knives ban call
Yep there's so many examples of the superiority of your stupid constitution in action. Perhaps they don't feel the need to address something with a document they've already had for a hew hundred years called the Magna Carta that your forefathers used as the model for their screed.

Patriot Act a stellar example right there that should be good enough to cause you to think twice about the superiority of your particular document but there are many more.

US Constitution vs. The Patriot Act

Civil Liberties: The Erosion of the 4th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution | Global Research

Now this one's downright scary.
Botched Paramilitary Police Raids | Cato Institute

Accused of Stealing a Backpack, High School Student Jailed for Nearly Three Years Without Trial | Democracy Now!

Teen in jail for months over 'sarcastic' Facebook threat - CNN.com

Second teen spends months in jail for video game threat | The Daily Caller

Oregon Man Sentenced to 30 Days in Jail -- for Collecting Rainwater on His Property | CNS News

US: Atlanta man receives 10 years in prison for defending himself in anti-gay attack · PinkNews.co.uk

Now about those pointy kitchen knives; who was it first instituted a ban of finger nail clippers on aircraft?

Back on topic; one brit's opinion about American gun culture does not justify the castigation of other countries indeed whole continents.
 
Old 10-05-2014, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Yep there's so many examples of the superiority of your stupid constitution in action. Perhaps they don't feel the need to address something with a document they've already had for a hew hundred years called the Magna Carta that your forefathers used as the model for their screed.

Patriot Act a stellar example right there that should be good enough to cause you to think twice about the superiority of your particular document but there are many more.

US Constitution vs. The Patriot Act

Civil Liberties: The Erosion of the 4th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution | Global Research

Now this one's downright scary.
Botched Paramilitary Police Raids | Cato Institute

Accused of Stealing a Backpack, High School Student Jailed for Nearly Three Years Without Trial | Democracy Now!

Teen in jail for months over 'sarcastic' Facebook threat - CNN.com

Second teen spends months in jail for video game threat | The Daily Caller

Oregon Man Sentenced to 30 Days in Jail -- for Collecting Rainwater on His Property | CNS News

US: Atlanta man receives 10 years in prison for defending himself in anti-gay attack · PinkNews.co.uk

Now about those pointy kitchen knives; who was it first instituted a ban of finger nail clippers on aircraft?
At least we have a Constitution for the Patriot Act to fly in the face of. Your argument isn't so much against having a written constitution as it is an argument against a government forgetting the rules under which it is meant to govern.

As to your examples I ask: Have you no injustices in your country?

In the Name of the Father (1993) - IMDb
 
Old 10-05-2014, 12:42 PM
 
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Bud, you really want to use a movie as an argument in a discussion? LOL



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At least we have a Constitution for the Patriot Act to fly in the face of. Your argument isn't so much against having a written constitution as it is an argument against a government forgetting the rules under which it is meant to govern.

As to your examples I ask: Have you no injustices in your country?

In the Name of the Father (1993) - IMDb
 
Old 10-05-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by random_thoughts View Post

All three of them, Canada, Australia and the UK, however, have homicide rates few times lower than ours and super strict gun control laws, let's just compare some stats:

Homicide rate:

Canada - 1.6
Australia - 1.1
the UK - 1.0
the US - 4.7

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Now we all know why are you so afraid of comparing the US to other countries - it proves that gun control leads to lower crime on all of the continents
Within the United States there is not a strong correlation to rates of gun ownership and homicides. In some states, there is actually an inverse correlation.





Some states with the lowest rates of gun ownership have some of the highest homicide rates. This just goes to show that gun control does NOT lead to lower homicide rates.
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