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Old 10-04-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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One of the Conservative Colorado school board members recently defended her position to rewrite history on the premise that history classes aren't teaching that America is exceptional because we ended slavery "voluntarily." Apparently, she slept through her U.S. History class when they covered those four bloody years of Civil War.

Pastor and Civil Rights activist Patrick Demmer aptly sums up the real motivation behind this Conservative-led movement to whitewash history. It's all about making them feel "exceptional."

“She shouldn’t be on the education board,” said Demmer. “What her comment and that whole movement is trying to basically do is repaint history in a way that takes away the ugliness and the hurt and abuse that the African American in America suffered and endured to get to where we are right now.”

Conservative CO school board member: AP history is wrong, US ended slavery ‘voluntarily’

This is who is in charge of writing course work--someone who apparently is unaware that the country fought a bloody four year Civil War that ended slavery? Or perhaps she slept through English class, too, and never learned the meaning of the word "voluntary."

The Conservative version of history is not about what really happened, it is simply about making Conservatives feel good. And they say liberals operate on emotion.

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Old 10-04-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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This is who is in charge of writing course work--someone who apparently is unaware that the country fought a bloody four year Civil War to end slavery?
The Civil War wasn't fought to end slavery. It was fought to keep the Confederate states from seceding. Four of the Union states were slave states. You need to learn your history before you try to bash others for not knowing it.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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The Civil War wasn't fought to end slavery. It was fought to keep the Confederate states from seceding. Four of the Union states were slave states. You need to learn your history before you try to bash others for not knowing it.
So does that mean you agree with this woman that the slave states gave up slavery voluntarily?
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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I was taught in school that the Confederacy was going to end slavery regardless of who won. Have the facts of the Civil War changed in the last 35 years?
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:36 AM
 
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The Civil War wasn't fought to end slavery. It was fought to keep the Confederate states from seceding. Four of the Union states were slave states. You need to learn your history before you try to bash others for not knowing it.
It might have been fought to keep the Union together, but slavery was a major reason the South wanted to secede. The first states to secede had the largest slave populations. The people there saw slavery as essential to their economy and way of life. For that reason, they were willing to fight for it, at least those who owned slaves. However, they had to get the poor, who didn't own slaves, to fight for them. They had to convince people that if they didn't fight the way "the government will come for you" or "the Blacks will run amok".

Slavery is mentioned as a major reason for secession in the Articles of Secession. I learned this from Civil War historians.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:38 AM
 
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I was taught in school that the Confederacy was going to end slavery regardless of who won. Have the facts of the Civil War changed in the last 35 years?
Well, I have encyclopedias from the 1960s, and in those books, I see nothing of the kind mentioned. Nothing was mentioned about the Confederacy planning to free the slaves. In fact, there is mentions of the South wanting to keep slavery in the Articles of Secession. Perhaps you got a slanted view of the Confederacy.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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I was taught in school that the Confederacy was going to end slavery regardless of who won. Have the facts of the Civil War changed in the last 35 years?
Who taught you that nonsense?
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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Anyone who reads the speeches of Jefferson Davis and other successionists know that South'a right to keep slaves played the largest cause of the South's wanting to secede though not the only cause. that anyone would even hint that the south gave up slavery voluntarily is a stretch, yo pit it mildly.

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Old 10-04-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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Yes we did end it "voluntarily", just like we "voluntarily" pay taxes or anything else we "volunteer" for in a society based on State aggression... LOL
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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Yup. ******* fascists at it again. Never oppose their view of history because automatically YOUR WRONG!

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As an example, I note our slavery history,” Mazanec wrote. “Yes, we practiced slavery. But we also ended it voluntarily, at great sacrifice
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