Conservative Colorado School Board Member: U.S. "Excpetional" Because We Ended Slavery Voluntarily
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OK you digging deep now. There is always evil doers who break the law and horrible things to innocent people. To owns slaves like in the day. What a farce.
It's happening everyday brother. Go to a Walmart, Mc Donald's it's a glorified plantation unless it's a H.S. kid working there. And in China they literally have suicide nets put up around factories so they can't jump.
It's everywhere my friend. It's not as obvious as Hebrews mining large stones under the lashing of whips to build graves for the Pharaoh or African Americans working in the fields but the principle is the same.
Think about it... How does the Walton family and all these executives manage to make 10's of millions a year more than the average person? From the businesses they "own" right? Of course. Well how do these businesses generate all of that money. Sales of course? But who are responsible for moving all of that product, making all of those burgers etc... You betcha/the workers!
It's really not any different from a 19th century slave owner taking all of the profit from the sale of cotton, sugar cane etc... and giving the slaves enough food, clothing, and shelter to keep them healthy enough to work. As a matter of fact it's pretty much the same. Only today these owners get off even easier since with the cost of rents today most don't even make enough to do that without government assistance.
So it's the same as it ever was except for the fact that all of these people now believe they're free. Which is a testament to the psychological manipulation of the elite.
And I submit you don't know what slavery is. Slavery has nothing to do with whether you can take care of yourself or not. Slavery and poverty are not synonyms.
They're not as far away from synonyms as you think.
Yes, it is different. Serfs did not have a choice. Serfs could not change jobs. Serfs could not get a student loan to go learn a trade skill or get a college degree. Serfs could not sell their house and move to another city. Serfs did not vote on who their lord would be.
Yes isn't it grand you can choose what plantation you work on. Yeah And then you address a point I already covered concerning the genius of the modern elite. Number one they've learned to let 100% of the slaves fight to get into the 20% of the managerial class. And yes they let the slaves "vote" for their leaders while controlling all of the candidates of consequence. Another genius move. As Stalin said, "I don't care if we have elections as long as I can count the votes." They'll let you vote until your fingers hurt.
If your freedom requires that you be given food and shelter by the labor of others then all you've done is become the master and they have become the slaves.
No, I never said that. You should get food and shelter from your own labor.
The minute you require someone else to support your needs, you make a slave out of them. Even if they are richer than you are. You are still confiscating the results of their labor without their consent. That is slavery.
LOL!!! You just agreed with me.
You're wrong here because you're dealing in relative terms. This is typical liberal misrepresentation. They incite class envy by pointing out all the things the rich have that the poor don't. What they don't do is point out all the things the poor have that they didn't used to have. It is logically fallacious thinking. Just because slaves were on the bottom of society 200 years ago and you are on the bottom of society today does not make you a slave. Slavery isn't relative. You're either in forced labor with no personal freedom or you're not. Simply being poor relative to another person does not make you a slave.
Most people are in forced labor. It's either that or be hungry, homeless and shunned by your family and friends and human society in general. And yes being poor with no resources to have a family or any kind of normal life and with little way out is very much akin to slavery.
No, just flawed reasoning on your part. All you're doing is bog standard populist demagoguing.
It's not demagoguing just pointing out how human society has not changed as much as people are lead to believe it has. What has changed the most is technology and the faith and base morals of most of the people in the last 100 years. Other things, not so much.
The Civil War wasn't fought to end slavery. It was fought to keep the Confederate states from seceding. Four of the Union states were slave states. You need to learn your history before you try to bash others for not knowing it.
Not true, the civil war started because of slavery. Why did they give up slavery ? free labor, sex-exploitation, huge slave trade ?
I'm surprised she did not want to add that slavery was actually beneficial to blacks and that their lives are much more better than if they were left in Africa.
It's not demagoguing just pointing out how human society has not changed as much as people are lead to believe it has. What has changed the most is technology and the faith and base morals of most of the people in the last 100 years. Other things, not so much.
Agreed. This makes much sense to me, thanks & respect.
As for demagogues? Aren't there (many) reasons why the Lost Cause mythology is considered lost? Because it was tried & didn't work for one? & didn't the proponents of the Lost Cause movement also condemn Reconstruction? Sounds like 'sour grapes' multiplied by ...
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A demagogue /ˈdɛməɡɒɡ/ or rabble-rouser is a political leader in a democracy who appeals to the emotions, fears, prejudices, and ignorance of the lower classes in order to gain power and promote political motives.
Again another wasted post, there were zero confederate soldiers. This has been repeatedly debunked. The south was fighting to keep black people in bondage, their whole idea was that black people were inferior, they flat out refused to have black confederate soldiers.
In terms of you post about the north. The north wasn't fighting to keep black people as slaves, That teeny tiny difference kinda of changes everything.
Well, to be fair, the South *considered* allowing slaves to win their freedom by fighting for their side.
But the plan was never enacted, and frankly, the collapse of the Confederacy was basically done by the time they even began seriously considering the idea.
Well, to be fair, the South *considered* allowing slaves to win their freedom by fighting for their side.
But the plan was never enacted, and frankly, the collapse of the Confederacy was basically done by the time they even began seriously considering the idea.
Well to be fair nothing. There were zero black confederate soldiers.
As for the opinions of this particular board member, she is somewhat deficient in her own grasp of history.
There was nothing "exceptional" about the way that the U.S. ended its slave trade and it certainly wasn't "voluntary" when compared to how it was ended in Great Britain.
Scary to think that this woman has input into what young people are learning in Colorado.
As for the opinions of this particular board member, she is somewhat deficient in her own grasp of history. There was nothing "exceptional" about the way that the U.S. ended its slave trade and it certainly wasn't "voluntary" when compared to how it was ended in Great Britain.
Scary to think that this woman has input into what young people are learning in Colorado.
But don't you see? If we let the Conservatives rewrite our history curriculum, then America WILL appear exceptional in all ways! That's the plan!
Damn those historians--and truly exceptional students--for thwarting their plans.
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And then you address a point I already covered concerning the genius of the modern elite. Number one they've learned to let 100% of the slaves fight to get into the 20% of the managerial class. And yes they let the slaves "vote" for their leaders while controlling all of the candidates of consequence. Another genius move. As Stalin said, "I don't care if we have elections as long as I can count the votes." They'll let you vote until your fingers hurt.
