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Old 10-08-2014, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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To you it is a sin, but sin is relative to YOUR religion and not to law and your christian beliefs and church do not dictate law or what is or is not sin. Others have been told this over and over, in every state that bans marriage for homosexuals, they also ban civil unions or domestic partnerships, so why even put civl unions on the table when all that is is a ruse. You do not really want us to have access to any rights associated with marriage. And the will of the people is not to be used to dictate what rights any individual, group or minority can have. That would be tyranny of the majority and the free USA does not work in a tyranny or a theocracy.
Not to mention, the "will of the people" has changed. Today, a majority of Americans support SS marriage. The problem was that the now minority was using every tool it could to continue fighting SS marriage. And they're still fighting it... Ted Cruz screaming that he's going to amend the U.S. constitution to take away marriage rights from gay Americans

 
Old 10-08-2014, 08:37 AM
 
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Not to mention, the "will of the people" has changed. Today, a majority of Americans support SS marriage. The problem was that the now minority was using every tool it could to continue fighting SS marriage. And they're still fighting it... Ted Cruz screaming that he's going to amend the U.S. constitution to take away marriage rights from gay Americans
That's such a d*ck move. Why are conservatives just so mean-spirited?
 
Old 10-08-2014, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I have to believe that there are many republicans who are secretly relieved at this. It's now out of their hands, for all intents and purposes. Sure, you're gonna get boneheads like Carnival Cruz still talking about amendments and such, but for those of us who don't sniff paint thinner, it's over. And that effectively nullifies it as a political issue.

Tillis brought it up in the debate last night with Hagan saying he will fight to uphold the North Carolina law. Granted part of that might be an effort to get conservatives to the polls in a race he is trailing in, but he went hard against the Supreme Court's decision.
 
Old 10-08-2014, 08:53 AM
 
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So when gays get divorced... who is entitled to 50% of the others possessions, alimony, custody preferences given, etc. like states have with hetero marriages?
 
Old 10-08-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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So when gays get divorced... who is entitled to 50% of the others possessions, alimony, custody preferences given, etc. like states have with hetero marriages?
It's up to the judges and lawyers like it always is.
 
Old 10-08-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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So when gays get divorced... who is entitled to 50% of the others possessions, alimony, custody preferences given, etc. like states have with hetero marriages?
Why would the process be any different?
 
Old 10-08-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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Why would the process be any different?
I guess because the courts tend to favor the woman/wife.
 
Old 10-08-2014, 09:12 AM
 
Location: The 12th State
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Despite SC current ban but days after SCOTUS ruling affecting other states including the circuit SC is in, this happen today.
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A Charleston, South Carolina probate judge has just issued the state's first marriage license to a gay couple.
 
Old 10-08-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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Kennedy blocks same-sex ruling in Idaho.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/09/us...-in-idaho.html

Unfortunately there's only like two paragraphs related to this latest development, with no indication why it was done.

Correction: Idaho filed a request to the Supreme Court for an immediate stay of the appeals court ruling.

SCOTUS is having a tough time these days. Can't seem to decide which end is up.

Last edited by Globe199; 10-08-2014 at 09:40 AM..
 
Old 10-08-2014, 09:32 AM
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Location: Florida
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I guess because the courts tend to favor the woman/wife.
They shouldn't. Rather, the courts often do and should favor the predominant custodial parent, whoever that would be, and do and should factor in the difference in earning potential between the partners.
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