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Old 10-06-2014, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Why don't we just NFC chip in everyones hand, and that way we can use it to vote, use it for buying food and for general ID when being pulled over by the authorities.
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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The ANC didn't have to worry about Neo-Confederates using voter ID as a means to suppress voters...
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Shooting4life, The ANC didn't have to worry about Neo-Confederates using voter ID as a means to suppress voters...
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:34 AM
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I'm all for it as long as people doon't have to pay in order to get qualifying ID if they cannot afford it.

Why do so many Republicans oppose this feature?
We agree on basically nothing, but this…

My objection to voter ID isn't the concept itself; it's the implementation that is designed to make sure legitimate voters who tend to vote D can't cast a ballot. Voter ID is fine. Using it as a means to help unpopular candidates and issues win at the ballot box by disenfranchising people who have the right to vote is not.

Wisconsin even went to the trouble of telling DMV employees not to mention the free ID option unless specifically asked about it.
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:13 AM
 
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Sorry, I had no interest in doing your work or the work of the reporter's. If they are going to use a study, they should also link that study. When they don't do that, that sets off a red flag that they might by trying to misinform the reader...and it looks like I was right.


A voter ID wouldn't have solved any problems. If you read the report, you will find what the BOE said needs to be done is this....

"The BOE is also responsible for updating voter registration records and removing
ineligible voters from its voter rolls. A voter’s registration should be cancelled when,
among other reasons, the voter has moved residence outside of New York City, been
convicted of a felony, or died"

Basically the BOE needs to actually do their job so that these names aren't on the voter lists. If one knows a name is on the voter list, they could make a fake ID and vote in their place and the photo ID wouldn't have prevented anything.

Also what about those felons that shouldn't be on the list? There is no markings on a photo ID that states one is a felon.
A news article reporting an event doesn't have to always link to another article.

Admit it, you are a classic Obama supporter.


Yes, liberal NYC needs to do a better job of stopping fraud through looking at their voter rolls, but a photo ID that must be checked would also help. This is clear.


Democrat Party Bosses are on the wrong side of history. Most Republicans, most Independents, and even a small majority of Democrats want common sense photo ID laws.


How does stopping a common sense fair photo ID laws benefit society, other than more fraud votes for Democrats?
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:23 AM
 
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We agree on basically nothing, but this…

My objection to voter ID isn't the concept itself; it's the implementation that is designed to make sure legitimate voters who tend to vote D can't cast a ballot. Voter ID is fine. Using it as a means to help unpopular candidates and issues win at the ballot box by disenfranchising people who have the right to vote is not.

Wisconsin even went to the trouble of telling DMV employees not to mention the free ID option unless specifically asked about it.
Do you have a link?

Because there is a section for applying for a free Wisconsin Photo ID right on the form and website.

Wisconsin DMV Official Government Site - Obtaining an ID card

The official form, clearly indicates it is free: http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/forms/mv3004.pdf

Kind of hard to hide something that is blatantly on the form in big bold faced letters.


Democrat Party Bosses are on the wrong side of history on this and need to work with Republicans to implement fair and common sense photo ID laws. It is too bad if some Republicans want to turn the fraud around on the Democrats and get revenge by making it harder for some to vote. Both parties need to work together on this, but one is dragging its feet and screaming.
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:35 AM
 
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You are aware he is in a different country. You too can move to South Africa and get a photo ID to vote.
Are you saying its far easier for those in South Africa to do things like obtain their birth certificate despite having a lack of adauquate roads and bridges?

Wow, thats quite an admittance of the complete failure of the american government there..
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:36 AM
 
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We agree on basically nothing, but this…

My objection to voter ID isn't the concept itself; it's the implementation that is designed to make sure legitimate voters who tend to vote D can't cast a ballot.
The only way your response makes any sense is if you think Demcorats are far too dumb to obtain an ID.
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:56 AM
 
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The only way your response makes any sense is if you think Demcorats are far too dumb to obtain an ID.
Another point is that although Democrats tend to make up most of the poor - they need a photo ID to get their welfare, food stamps, etc... So the core of the Democrat base should already have a photo ID - unless there is wide spread fraud in that area too.
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Old 10-07-2014, 05:07 AM
 
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Another point is that although Democrats tend to make up most of the poor - they need a photo ID to get their welfare, food stamps, etc... So the core of the Democrat base should already have a photo ID - unless there is wide spread fraud in that area too.
Obamacare requires photo ID, no Democrats whining over that which is weird..

One would think people DYING, (which was their claim as justification to pass ACA) would have far less opportunity to obtain ID than those who simply need it to vote but have all year to obtain it..

Obamacare's ID restrictions and liberal voting rights hypocrisy | The Daily Caller
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