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Old 10-09-2014, 05:37 PM
 
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No, I did not miss that. But that doesn't give police the ability to preform a warrantless search of a home.

911 call on a B&E inprogress and an open door. You bet they are coming in. And everyright to do so.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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911 call on a B&E inprogress and an open door. You bet they are coming in. And everyright to do so.
I don't buy the "ajar side door" at all. Seems like an after the fact justification.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:45 PM
 
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According to what legal system? Egypt's?

Wow. Just wow.
No no no. This is America. This is our America. We the people are to submit to those in power until they figure the way the "situation" is to be.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:50 PM
 
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I don't buy the "ajar side door" at all. Seems like an after the fact justification.
Then your dead in the water because you have no other evidence to the contrary to substantiate your assertions.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:55 PM
 
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Then your dead in the water because you have no other evidence to the contrary to substantiate your assertions.
I never claimed I did. I wan't there. I don't have a videotape of the entry.

It just seems likes a very convenient (and impossible to disprove if everyone sticks to the story) justification for an otherwise unconstitutional search.
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Old 10-09-2014, 07:03 PM
 
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If you aren't offering force, then a police officer shouldn't pepper spray you. While I do agree that being a wiseacre with the police isn't a smart thing, if that is all you're doing, pepper spray is extreme. If you aren't making death threats or the like, then the officer should maintain some control. This cop's reaction was a case of "I don't like the way this person is talking so I will knock him out". If a civilian did that, said person would be charged with assault and battery.
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Old 10-09-2014, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Then your dead in the water because you have no other evidence to the contrary to substantiate your assertions.

Are you speaking for LEO or the kid? Cops are not your friends and will lie to you or on police reports. Why do they always separate a group of people into individuals when questioning them? To purposefully trip them up with some inane factoid, lie and tell the individuals one or the other rolled over on them or other thing to get you to say something stupid, even if you have nothing to hide because nothing is amiss. The LEO merely want a collar so they have some paperwork to hand in. An empty handed cop looks like a lazy cop.
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Old 10-09-2014, 08:41 PM
 
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And do you really believe the "ajar door" statement by these cops?
Ehhh...either it was or it wasn't. Teenagers aren't the most focused people on the planet, he could've left it open. Or they're lying. I have no idea.
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Old 10-09-2014, 08:52 PM
 
Location: North America
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If the police entered my home by mistake, I would be pissed off, but I would still do what they said and cooperate in order to protect myself and my family. It should be easy enough to straighten things out. Talking back to police or acting threatening in anyway would not be on my "to do" list.
Who knows how true that is anyway. it wouldn't be the first time police lied to cover up their **** ups.
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Old 10-10-2014, 06:25 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Don't need one for a crime/suspected crime in progress.

Sheriffs have much different legal abilities than do police.

One is elected and one is hired.
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