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Whether you love them or hate them, in our civil society, police officers are authority figures. When a police officer tells you to stop, you have to stop. If they tell you to put your hands up and you fail to do so, it is at your own peril.
Why aren't the so called "leaders" in the black community talking about this? Al Sharpton will do a triple back flip across traffic to get in front of a TV camera. If he really cared about black kids, he would tell them not to fight with the police so they can live. Unfortunately, he is a narcissistic charlatan that does nothing but perpetuate problems and make money for himself. Who else is there?
Yea, never question authority. Authority can do no wrong. History has told us that authority is always right.
You don't get it. Blacks have had over 300 years of animousity towards the white man's version of Authority in America. The rules are just not the same.
So, I'm supposed to do anything a cop tells me to do? Cops can violate the rights of citizens. That is why citizens have Miranda rights. That is why we have the 4th Amendment. That is why we can videotape police.
In the situation you are referring to, the man had no legal reason to do what the cop asked. Following the cops orders is more of a means of self-preservation than constitutionality. Suppose this man stepped out of the car and was beaten in front of his family? It may seem ludicrous to you.. but black men have a history of being terrorized, victimized, beaten, and killed by a white man in a uniform.
First off the black community has a lot of great leaders but the news outlets and the media rather like the Sharptons and the Jacksons....They give them the lead stories so someone best ask why the liberal media is so fond of pushing them as leaders...
As for the cops apparently the same media people have an eye out for any shortcomings they have and ignore the 99.9% of excellent service.....There is an agenda not confined to the black community,,rather driven by outside interest and agitators......
But of course the media will never report on their own sins,,if there isn't a good story,make one seems to be their motto.......As for the police attitudes....
Police departments are not secular,they do the bidding of the political jurisdiction they reside under....Point your finger where the problems come from... Opine from a PA white assed old man.....
Why aren't the so called "leaders" in the black community talking about this? Al Sharpton will do a triple back flip across traffic to get in front of a TV camera. If he really cared about black kids, he would tell them not to fight with the police so they can live.
White men will never understand this part.
Reread your history books. Not fighting with the police doesn't guarentee the survival of a black man when confronted by the police.
Yea, never question authority. Authority can do no wrong. History has told us that authority is always right.
You don't get it. Blacks have had over 300 years of animousity towards the white man's version of Authority in America. The rules are just not the same.
So, I'm supposed to do anything a cop tells me to do? Cops can violate the rights of citizens. That is why citizens have Miranda rights. That is why we have the 4th Amendment. That is why we can videotape police.
In the situation you are referring to, the man had no legal reason to do what the cop asked. Following the cops orders is more of a means of self-preservation than constitutionality. Suppose this man stepped out of the car and was beaten in front of his family? It may seem ludicrous to you.. but black men have a history of being terrorized, victimized, beaten, and killed by a white man in a uniform.
You have a problem with the 2nd Amendment? From what you just hammered out you should be a very staunch supporter.
I think the average American has the right to defend himself against uniformed thugs; especially when one's life, loved ones or property is being threatened. It's time the jackboots learn they are not in charge.
Dissident? Oh, yeah, all my life. I am conservative and we think this way.
Yea, never question authority. Authority can do no wrong. History has told us that authority is always right.
You don't get it. Blacks have had over 300 years of animousity towards the white man's version of Authority in America. The rules are just not the same.
So, I'm supposed to do anything a cop tells me to do? Cops can violate the rights of citizens. That is why citizens have Miranda rights. That is why we have the 4th Amendment. That is why we can videotape police.
In the situation you are referring to, the man had no legal reason to do what the cop asked. Following the cops orders is more of a means of self-preservation than constitutionality. Suppose this man stepped out of the car and was beaten in front of his family? It may seem ludicrous to you.. but black men have a history of being terrorized, victimized, beaten, and killed by a white man in a uniform.
While many of the responses are pretty disturbing, this is the poster child for what I am referring to.
There is absolutely a time and place to question authority. That time and place is NOT out on the street. If a cop is questioning, pulling over or attempting to detain someone, they don't know who they are, what their intentions are and/or if they are armed. Until they have that information, its a really bad idea to get in a pissing contest with them.
Much of what you say is true. There is a history of systematic racism in the US and this has at times included police targeting blacks. However, your conclusions are flawed. Would you encourage all Jewish people to stay away from Germans? There's some pretty ugly history there. Should all non-Muslims distrust Muslims? September 11th wasn't that long ago. ISIS is probably beheading someone as we speak.
The semi-ridiculous point that I'm making is that the actions of a few, especially if they took place a long time ago, may have no reflection on the present. Just because some bad stuff happened a long time ago, it doesn't give anyone a free pass to do as they please today.
If you are wrongfully detained, questioned, harassed or beaten by a cop, here's some really good advice. Do exactly what they ask you to, be nice and call a lawyer. Then call the local media. Then get a book deal and live happily ever after. You are free to choose another course, but that could not only jeopardize the happily ever after part, but also the living part.
Does anyone really believe that in America in 2014, some respectful, Sidney Poitier looking, law abiding man is going to get terrorized, beaten or killed by a cop just for being "a colored boy?" How much MSNBC do you watch? Sadly, this probably did happen just a couple generations ago in the real world and it happens all the time in movies. It certainly didn't happen in any of the recent high profile cases that inspired this post.
I know you aren't going to listen to me, which is why I wish someone that you would listen to would say the same thing.
Fair enough. Then please DON'T try to come down on "non Black" people who DO try to help even the hood rats go straight but some fools yell "racism" because they see "taking care of business as acting white".
No one asked for your help, and it's not wanted. Help your self or your own people.
As for the need for "leaders," nope...I'll pass.
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