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Old 11-03-2014, 02:25 PM
 
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You may disagree but life to me is a gift from GOD that should be cherished no matter what....and believe me i'm not the most religious guy in the world...however on this one issue I feel strongly about and no ifs or buts about it.
That's lovely.

Some people think that the quality of life is something to be weighed.

You may not agree, but they don't really care if you agree or not.
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Old 11-03-2014, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I think dying with dignity does include the choice not to take one's life. I am saying that having the choice is empowering, either way.
On this, you and I concur. That was, ultimately, the point I was making earlier. It seemed lost on others.
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Old 11-03-2014, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I think dying with dignity does include the choice not to take one's life. I am saying that having the choice is empowering, either way.
Yes, it is.

In is interesting to note that in Oregon, some people who have obtained the lethal prescription have died without using it. Especially in the early years, some of these patients were willing to be interviewed and have reporters follow them to the end. They said that just having the prescription made it easier for them to bear physical and emotional pain, because they knew they could end things whenever they chose.
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Old 11-03-2014, 02:35 PM
 
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I can't place myself in another's shoes.

We need to be careful to assure that the person who wants to die is the one who initiates the process.
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Old 11-03-2014, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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You may disagree but life to me is a gift from GOD that should be cherished no matter what....and believe me i'm not the most religious guy in the world...however on this one issue I feel strongly about and no ifs or buts about it.
I think life is a gift from God too. I also believe he gave me the power of free will along with it as part of the package.

Since when does a fervent belief held by another person affect your own belief, gretsky? That you feel strongly about this issue does not mean you have the right to say we all must believe as you do.

Of course, that I feel differently than you does not mean I have any more rights, either. I'm just glad that you'll never be able to make a decision for me that only I should have the right to make. I feel bad for those closest to you, though… I hope none of them have to suffer for your beliefs when it is their time.
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Old 11-03-2014, 02:39 PM
 
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This has been going on for a long time. A friend of mine in a state without this law had his doctor give him something to take if the pain got overwhelming. He is no longer with us and I have no idea if it is how he went or not but he had the option.

This really isn't "doctor assisted" any more than it would be "Wal Mart" assisted if you went to Wal Mart and bought a gun to shoot yourself. If someone wants to take their own life it's none of my business. Outside of self defense I do not believe anyone has the right to actually take the life of anyone else though.
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Old 11-03-2014, 02:39 PM
 
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that could be. modern medicine has been going to ever-increasing lengths to postpone the inevitable, whether the patient wants that or not.
Well....my daughter worked with cancer patients at a major hospital here as an RN and it is the patients families that wanted to keep them alive more than the patient wanted it even after the Doctors had told them that nothing could be done to save the patient.........

I believe that it is my right if that's what I want...
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Old 11-03-2014, 02:50 PM
 
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A woman by the name of Britain found out that she had terminal brain cancer. She made a decision to move to Portland Oregon where assisted suicide is legal. I total disagree a Doctor's hippocratic oath is to do no harm. BTW.. Do you know who invented the whole concept of physician assisted suicide the Nazis. Why because for the NAZIS those who were disabled or burden were dispensable. By legalizing physician suicide we're entering a slippery slope.


Cancer patient Brittany Maynard, 29, has scheduled her death for Nov. 1 - The Washington Post
As many on the left claim, "It is MY body and I have the right to do with it as I please"

You can't have it both ways.
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Old 11-03-2014, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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No because I would feel horrible of knowing someone that took their life...even an Ah@le like you
I respect your opinion. For some folks "death without dignity" would be appropriate.
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Old 11-03-2014, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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This has been going on for a long time. A friend of mine in a state without this law had his doctor give him something to take if the pain got overwhelming. He is no longer with us and I have no idea if it is how he went or not but he had the option.
This is true. Doctors can and do prescribe potentially lethal drugs for seriously ill patients, telling the patient "now, don't take more than 4 of these at a time, or you'll die", while prescribing 12 pills at a time.

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This really isn't "doctor assisted" any more than it would be "Wal Mart" assisted if you went to Wal Mart and bought a gun to shoot yourself. If someone wants to take their own life it's none of my business.
Physician-assisted suicide laws do two things -

1) a doctor who follows the law cannot be charged with manslaughter/homicide for prescribing a lethal medication which results in a patient's death

2) allows a patient to openly discuss these issues and make a reasoned choice

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Outside of self defense I do not believe anyone has the right to actually take the life of anyone else though.
Any state following the Oregon pattern does not allow anyone but the patient to make the decision. I don't think anyone involved in this debate at the legislative level advocates euthanasia.
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