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Old 01-30-2021, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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I fully support it, and not just for terminal patients - for anyone that wants to check out. You can be in utter mental anguish and be perfectly healthy, physically.
Yeah, same. Anyone that really wants to will just do it anyway. It's something that should be discussed with physicians and mental health providers rather than a bottle of whiskey and a shotgun.
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Old 01-30-2021, 05:02 PM
 
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I totally support it. We assist births, why not death?
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Old 01-30-2021, 05:04 PM
 
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In concept it seems fine, but patients will be pressured into it and into signing weaselly worded forms, giving providers immunity, and killed involuntarily is what I believe is prone to happen with it. Providers have too much immunity and unaccountability and cause too much damage as it is.
Usually at least two doctors have to sign off on it. There's more to it than just wanting it to happen.
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Old 01-30-2021, 06:13 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Really, isn't this just a variant of palliative care? The person is 100% going to die, so you provide care and drugs to ease their passing.
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Old 01-30-2021, 06:13 PM
 
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Usually at least two doctors have to sign off on it. There's more to it than just wanting it to happen.
A couple doctors signing off on some form doesn't itself necessarily mean anything was done right and proper to the patient.
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Old 01-30-2021, 06:31 PM
 
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As long as no other being is hurt in the process. That includes unborn children, and that includes the idea that anyone in the future might be forced to do this - because the way things are going, it would not surprise me in the least if some were, indeed, forced to do it, despite their beliefs, religious or otherwise.

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My overall thoughts on this are:

If the doc is willing to do it, it's not my place to tell someone that they can't. I would prefer that they didn't kill themselves - I am not a proponent of suicide, assisted or otherwise...I just don't think it's right - but it's not my position to judge them.

And I do understand the argument that we do it for our pets - to end their suffering. I've had to do that to some of my pets - one of them being my best friend in the world - and I agonized over that very thought before I made the appointment. "We do this to pets, but we don't to it to humans. Why is it okay for me to do this to my pet right now?"

Considering that I like animals more than people - I totally understand that argument.

I will stick with this: I do not like to see my pets suffer. If there is no solution, then I end their agony.

With humans - I can only say that even though I don't think it's right, I'm not the one who decides these things. If it were someone I knew, I would be researching for anything and everything for them to try, first.

This is very moral dilemma for me, I'm not going to pretend it isn't.
I love animals as well. I think most people do. When I saw a YouTube video of dogs being clubbed to death with bats in China, it was the hardest thing to watch that I ever saw in my lifetime. As far as assisted suicide, I could never dictate to another human what they can or cannot do with their lives. That’s what the government does. Not me.
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