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Old 10-14-2014, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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As usual, you "thought" WRONG!
no wonder they think "all" of any part of something are all identical....
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Old 10-14-2014, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Realists have a firm grip on reality and can see things for what they are, not what they are told they are. Realists have their own views and do not fall victim to propaganda, misconception, or titles!
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Old 10-14-2014, 09:32 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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The USA reacts a little squirrelly when it comes to shedding light on Police misconduct. We seem to mistake our policemen/women for NATO - an attack on one is an attack on all. Just because the bad ones are called out (and busted on camera, for instance) doesn't mean that all cops are bad. HOWEVER, why do we give special dispensation to them and not to others like: our soldiers, our doctors, our lawyers, our politicians, our businessmen, etc. . . They have a tough job to do, but they need to be held accountable as well due to the authority/power they wield. The fact that there are good and bad in that sector of society is natural as it is found in EVERY sector of society. To point out the bad doesn't equate to an attack on all cops (but many do exaggerate as if they are all jack-booted thugs inherently). Shoulder & dash cams are a good way to protect the good cops and weed out the (or keep in check) the bad ones. No one particular measure will be sufficient to stop all bad cops or protect our good ones, but every bit helps. In God we trust, everyone else we have to have accountability.
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Old 10-14-2014, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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The USA reacts a little squirrelly when it comes to shedding light on Police misconduct. We seem to mistake our policemen/women for NATO - an attack on one is an attack on all. Just because the bad ones are called out (and busted on camera, for instance) doesn't mean that all cops are bad. HOWEVER, why do we give special dispensation to them and not to others like: our soldiers, our doctors, our lawyers, our politicians, our businessmen, etc. . . They have a tough job to do, but they need to be held accountable as well due to the authority/power they wield. The fact that there are good and bad in that sector of society is natural as it is found in EVERY sector of society. To point out the bad doesn't equate to an attack on all cops (but many do exaggerate as if they are all jack-booted thugs inherently). Shoulder & dash cams are a good way to protect the good cops and weed out the (or keep in check) the bad ones. No one particular measure will be sufficient to stop all bad cops or protect our good ones, but every bit helps. In God we trust, everyone else we have to have accountability.
RE: dash cams - well, they are in a way, but people who really hate cops, and authority, will even Misinterpret, them...according to their perception. Remember the guy whose dog was killed by a police officer looking for a child in the guys backyard and the dog attacked the cop? That guy started filming on his telephone on the way home, after being called at work and told about it....he was fuming, but he made it sound like the cops were wrong.
If my dog was killed, by a cop or otherwise, I certainly wouldn't have filmed how I felt, and me yelling at the cops....I would be to grief stricken.

Anyway, if you want to see bad, your going to see it regardless, b/c you cannot accept anything else as reality...so regardless....they are good and bad....but for the cops protection and the protection of civilians, it is....it is all about perception. I used to write poetry, for years, then one day, someone contacted me and proceeded to ask me why my poetry had contained sexual content? It didn't but the reader perceived it that way....my poetry had nothing of the sorts, it was spiritual and about God. I was unable to write anything after that....so you see my point...people see what they want to see regardless.....
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Old 10-14-2014, 09:50 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There are a few states where dash cams and body cams are illegal. In those states, you must give consent to be recorded. Not recorded and forced to give consent.
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Old 10-14-2014, 10:17 AM
 
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The general population has killed more in a week than police in a year; I don't see the point. Some cities have more murders in a month than other states in a year. In fact more people are charged with vehicular homicide than total of police later found justified or not. People know where danger lies and its not the police.
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Old 10-14-2014, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Right, because then the black community can claim that a future Michael Brown was simply fighting back because a crazy white guy in regular clothes was ordering him to stop, claiming he was the police or sumthin.
Like in the Zimmerman case? Oh wait, the other party did not get to give their side they were killed
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Old 10-14-2014, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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If anybody lacks individual responsibility, it's the police! And just FYI I've never called the police in over 70 years and can't imagine ever calling them for anything other than a required report. Why call a thug to enforce the law?

sorry but your attitude is sorely amiss and evident....and lacks anything even remotely resembling logic
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Old 10-14-2014, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Southwest Minneapolis
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Good old MSDNC, staying ahead of the curve. This network probably ran a story on September 10th 2001 about how disgruntled conservatives are more of a threat to airline security than Islamic extremists. At that time, it would have been true that the Police had killed more civilians than Al Qaeda. Clearly this is fool proof logic from Harry Perry.

...And once again, you have someone using their soapbox to stoke the flames of racial animosity.

Well, you heard it here first, go hug a terrorist and someone with an Ebola but stay away from those evil policemen. Well done.
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Old 10-14-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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I'm not a hippie dippie Liberal, but the Zimmerman mess could have been avoided. He was not a trained police officer and he shouldn't have confronted Martin. His place was to call the cops and let the professionals deal with the situation. I'm not saying Martin should have assaulted him, but Zimmerman was the one who set the ball in motion.
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