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Old news and McConnell is not in control of government.
Now, which excuse will you use next on why the last few presidents were able to work with congress but this one cannot? Let me guess, they're all racists?
I hope Professor Krugman gives President Obama a complete report about whether Krugman spotted any polyps up there. It will save President Obama the time and trouble of a normal colonoscopy.
I'd expect a report on the sweet flavor of any polyps as well. Because of course we all know how Dear Leader's **** don't stink.
Obama never had a chance at being successful. The odds were against him from day one.
Why? Because of lack of experience or integrity, or because any who truly looked at him and his record saw the incompetence that he would bring to the office? Or because he started his first term with lies, IE that the first action he took would be to close GITMO and he just continued from there?
So far this has been an interesting learning experience for me. As far as I can tell, none of the critics to date has even bothered to read the article. They're all just repeating pre-digested opinions and favorite insults, instead of actually considering what the man has to say.
As far as the diss of the two men's respective Nobel Prizes, even if you think Obama's award was premature, it should be noted that the Peace Prize is in a completely different category from the others, with different rules, voting body, even different awards procedures, etc. If you poke your head out of the echo chamber long enough to see what the world thinks about the Nobel Prizes, they're still a very big deal. And in the world of Economics, the Professor from Princeton is highly regarded, if not in the world of Fox news.
As far as the fierce opposition to Obama at every step of the way goes, it's clearly a matter for the history books already that the tea party and the radical right Republicans worked overtime from the beginning to obstruct everything Obama's administration proposed. There was a hard-core drive to make his Presidency fail, and it's been no secret. It's all been right out there in public.
Meanwhile the demographic death spiral of the right has continued, with well financed political tricks, such as gerrymandering state redistricting and imposing voter ID laws intending to hold down the Democratic vote and skewing their own ranks towards the white and male and elderly, while the population inexorable grows and the younger, more racially diverse electorate becomes more alienated by the Republicans' stubborn allegiance to business and the wealthy.
Anyone who bothers looking at the entire situation can see where the trend is going. But from reading the comments here, I doubt that many are looking at the big picture, because so many posts are just "grown up" versions of "My team can beat your team!" and "Your favorite band sucks!"
What difference might it make if people actually read more broadly and thought more rigorously, and posted thoughtful replies instead of just slinging mud like a bunch of yabbos?
So far this has been an interesting learning experience for me. As far as I can tell, none of the critics to date has even bothered to read the article. They're all just repeating pre-digested opinions and favorite insults, instead of actually considering what the man has to say.
There is no point in reading an opinion piece by Paul Krugman. Anyone with a brain knows what the article is going to say without even reading it. Here, try me: I am sure that the article is a slobbering, gushing tribute to the wonderful King Obama, smattered with insults and snide jabs at any of Obama's detractors or political opponents. Am I right?
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As far as the diss of the two men's respective Nobel Prizes, even if you think Obama's award was premature, it should be noted that the Peace Prize is in a completely different category from the others, with different rules, voting body, even different awards procedures, etc. If you poke your head out of the echo chamber long enough to see what the world thinks about the Nobel Prizes, they're still a very big deal. And in the world of Economics, the Professor from Princeton is highly regarded, if not in the world of Fox news.
Who cares what "the world" thinks about the Nobel Prize. "The world" has pretty much proven itself impotent at dealing with any significant geopolitical problem, and "the world" is populated with mostly uninformed people struggling under third world conditions or socialists mooching off their welfare state governments. I don't care one bit what "the world" thinks about an issue, nor should any self-respecting America. "The world" is usually wrong.
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As far as the fierce opposition to Obama at every step of the way goes, it's clearly a matter for the history books already that the tea party and the radical right Republicans worked overtime from the beginning to obstruct everything Obama's administration proposed. There was a hard-core drive to make his Presidency fail, and it's been no secret. It's all been right out there in public.
Need a tissue? Newsflash: we do not live in a dictatorship or a monarchy. Every President has had to deal with an opposition party. The difference with Obama is that he is too narcissistic to even attempt to deal with anyone who even mildly disagrees with him. The problem isn't with the opposition, it's with your leader Obama and his tyrannical approach toward governance. And if you want a real life example of a political party trying to destroy a Presidency, look no further than the Democrats' conduct during and after the 2000 election. Of course, you don't recall that because the leftwing echo chamber you live in doesn't appreciate facts or reality.
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Meanwhile the demographic death spiral of the right has continued, with well financed political tricks, such as gerrymandering state redistricting and imposing voter ID laws intending to hold down the Democratic vote and skewing their own ranks towards the white and male and elderly, while the population inexorable grows and the younger, more racially diverse electorate becomes more alienated by the Republicans' stubborn allegiance to business and the wealthy.
Gerrymandering is a tactic used by both parties. Just ask anyone who lives in Maryland or Illinois about the ridiculous districts drawn up by the majority Democrats. Again, your left wing echo chamber prevents you from acknowledging facts and reality. And as far as the "demographic death spiral of the right" is concerned, I think that's a wee bit premature. In case you missed it, your party is about to get slaughtered once again in about a month.
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Anyone who bothers looking at the entire situation can see where the trend is going. But from reading the comments here, I doubt that many are looking at the big picture, because so many posts are just "grown up" versions of "My team can beat your team!" and "Your favorite band sucks!"
I think you should try forming your opinion from taking in facts and making observations about what is actually happening. If you did that, instead of spewing hatred at posters on an internet forum, then you might figure out that the reason your hero Obama and his political party have so much opposition is due in large part because they have failed at governming competently. The policies you on the left have championed through a rah-rah "my team is better than your team of old white racists" has left EVERYONE worse off, no matter how much you wish to project the left's failures onto the rest of the country.
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What difference might it make if people actually read more broadly and thought more rigorously, and posted thoughtful replies instead of just slinging mud like a bunch of yabbos?
In an article that is bound to please some, baffle others, and infuriate many here, Nobel Prize winning economist and Professor of Economics at Princeton University, Paul Krugman, not always a fan of Barack Obama, has lobbed a bombshell into the political arena with his analysis of the effects of the President's administration so far.
In an extensive article in Rolling Stone Magazine this week, Krugman makes the case that despite the unfavorable public opinion polls, Barack Obama "has emerged as one of the most consequential and, yes, successful presidents in American history."
Among his key accomplishments, says Krugman, based on detailed analysis of the economy...
I don't know how far this analysis will penetrate into the conservative echo chambers, but among free thinkers it should be a welcome respite from the extreme partisan rhetoric which has largely replaced civil discourse and debate and crippled our ability nationally to find the points of mutual of interest and compromise which allowed for workability in the past.
What Krugman points out is that in the face of all the assembled opposition, President Obama has accomplished a great deal more than he's generally acknowledged for.
And he's not over yet.
He has been in office six years. He had a Democratic Congress for two years - when he got ACA done. The law was badly written and needs significant repair already.
What has Obama really done for the environment? Updated CAFE standards?
Krugman, as usual, fails to acknowledge that Obama's foreign policy is shaping up as a disaster. The withdrawal from Iraq was too much too soon, and he didn't do anything to shape Iraq's government into one that works for both Sunnis and Shiites.
What about race relations? I think they have deteriorated under Obama.
Immigration? No progress.
How about individual rights? Snowden exposed the intrusion of the government into our lives, which Obama and Holder defended.
Transparency in the White House? Worse than ever. Anti-press.
As to your complaining about partisans and mud slinging, perhaps you should take your own advice on this before dishing it out. Really.
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