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I do not know the labor laws there, it is a progressive state so they may have some strange laws, most states I have worked did not require anything be put in writing and if so I am sure they can simply say "downsizing" or "budget cuts" and that would be that.
Nope.... the state this happened in actually has laws that directly prohibit employers from asking about gun ownership, so this place is gonna be in some trouble by the looks of it. This guys Lawyer was on NRA news yesterday talking about it.
Correct, the story is awfully short and when I see that sort of thing it usually means we are only getting part of the story because someone is pushing an agenda.
Nope.... the state this happened in actually has laws that directly prohibit employers from asking about gun ownership, so this place is gonna be in some trouble by the looks of it. This guys Lawyer was on NRA news yesterday talking about it.
Did the company ask or was it simply another employee if he said it on his own it also changes the picture? A whole lot seems to be on the "fuzzy" side here and in the end I have a strong feeling that we will find out there is more to the story than what was posted, there usually is with these stories.
Nope.... the state this happened in actually has laws that directly prohibit employers from asking about gun ownership, so this place is gonna be in some trouble by the looks of it. This guys Lawyer was on NRA news yesterday talking about it.
For the state to pass a law about gun ownership and employment this must have happed before.
That surprises me......but, I assume everyone has a gun.
Did the company ask or was it simply another employee if he said it on his own it also changes the picture? A whole lot seems to be on the "fuzzy" side here and in the end I have a strong feeling that we will find out there is more to the story than what was posted, there usually is with these stories.
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I disagree.
I know I am a "con".......and a business owner.
I would never tell workers that could not own a gun.
Absolutely your right as an employer but...........................................
Can you really claim all of an employee's Constitutional rights are protected in the work place?
i.e. Can an employee walk into your office and tell you to pi$$ off (1st Amendment) and expect to keep their job?
The issue here appears to be more about the employer's violation of state employment law than a Constitutional one. What's really asinine IMO is firing a long-term employee with a good record for something they own and don't bring to the work place against their employer's wishes. If someone worked well for me over 21 years I sure as hell wouldn't toss them aside for anything they owned/did legally away from the workplace.
Yes, I do understand the laws on that, I work under those rules and most of my work is done as a Contractor and has been for over 30 years, which in reality all employees become in Right To Work States (at will employment, feel better now).
Right to work, usually refers to proscription of a union shop. Employment at will is a different issue.
Did the company ask or was it simply another employee if he said it on his own it also changes the picture? A whole lot seems to be on the "fuzzy" side here and in the end I have a strong feeling that we will find out there is more to the story than what was posted, there usually is with these stories.
The way it was said yesterday, he and another employee were talking and he said he was a gun owner. Then, it got back to a supervisor, and by that time, the story had changed to "he was carrying a gun". So then he was asked about it, and he said yeah he was a gun owner, but didn't carry it. They fired him and said it was a violation of the no-tolerance policy.
Wouldn't gun ownership indicate the employee was not a felon? You ask employees to raise their hands if they own a gun, those that do get a feather in their cap, because it means they have at least been cleared by the FBI as being law abiding citizens.
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