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This is clearly a violation of the First Amendment. The city has no business investigating the content of Sermons to determine if they are "preaching hate." Not only would this violate free speech, but it also violates the free exercise of religion. A church must be free to preach God's word, regardless of what some bureaucrat thinks of it.
You read the OP's headline and skipped right to the 15th page to post. The court is not subpoenaing sermons to determine if they are "preaching hate."
The subpoena requests all sermons, presentations, and speeches related to homosexuality and gender identity. What possible relevance does that have to the supposed invalid petition signatures ? Zero.
They're hoping to find nasty, embarrassing comments to use against the pastors and other petition supporters.
The subpoena requests all sermons, presentations, and speeches related to homosexuality and gender identity. What possible relevance does that have to the supposed invalid petition signatures ? Zero.
They're hoping to find nasty, embarrassing comments to use against the pastors and other petition supporters.
Why would they even need a subpoena to do what you are suggesting?
I read one of the subpoenas, its pretty clear the focus is on anything related to the petition drive. I would agree with the description that it is a broad discovery. It would not surprise me if they are thinking about bringing criminal or civil charges concerning the way the petition drive was handled.
As long as that is the case instead of making all bathrooms gender neutral. Most places anymore have a gender neutral bathroom along with others but it is for only one person at a time and has a lock on the door.
And few if any have a problem with that so I don't understand why we still have this debate. We already have the solution.
wrong! Our GOVERNMENT has no RIGHT whatsoever to access and consider the words of the citizens. period. end of story.
it doesnt matter one iota what these men may or may not have said in thier pulpits. period. the government from the feds, down to the city run by the jackbooted thug nazi mayor, has no right at all to "expose" anything.
The mayor and her legal henchmen need to go to jail TODAY
You didn't take many courses in logic, did you?
There is a reason testimony is used in court. How do you expect a government to maintain order when they are not allowed to consider the words of citizens at any point? How will they know what to do? How will they find criminals?
So if they were planning terrorism, you think the government should ignore it?
I understand that you would like the church to supersede the state, but it does not. The separation is not even in the constitution. Might I suggest actually reading the document rather than glorifying an image of what you would like it to say? It is a great document, but it does not say what you think it says.
It seems Muslims pretty much stay in their own communities. I only see the women out in groups. They have their own part of town and don't venture out much. Look at England. If outsidersgo into their community they are expected to follow the Muslim laws. No drinking, etc. in their area.
Christians are more inclusive in society. We have never experienced discrimination here or other places. I guess that just may change in the future but it would be a shame if it did happen.
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