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Exactly, why do you think the Republicans and some Democrats were so against universal healthcare? Had we gotten universal healthcare, it would have taken insurance put of the hands of for profit private companies.
But the ACA is why we don't have actual universal healthcare, it's something the powers that be offered up as a bait and switch to let people think they were going to get access and delivery of affordable healthcare and instead bleed them dry financially and take just a little more freedom away.
If you support UH you should be attacking the ACA, not defending it.
I don't blame the delay until after the election so that Republicans can't use something that goes up annually anyway.
So Obama LIED when he said they would fall?
I thought the point behind subsidies were that they would fall?
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Actually he probably paid for much of it through his taxes, as well as having the cost spread out among all the people in the country.
Why do you have such a hatred towards having all Americans having health insurance? I will never understand this way of thinking.
Remember you saying this?
Tell me urban, when will this happen?
And how about this posting of yours
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So you are expecting your employer to cut your health care? You might want to start looking for a better job that isn't out to take advantage of their employees.
So now you are celebrating you not having your insurance tied to the employers, but suggested someone else needs to find a better job in the EXACT same situation..
Your a non stop walking contradiction flip flopping poster who has to first tell everyone they dont know what they are talking about pre action, and then when what they suggested actually takes place, you celebrate i because your a recipiant of the handouts and then attack those who arent..
I'd be embarassed to run around for years tellign people ACA would drop costs and make them more affordable while insuring every american..
You somehow think everyone will forget what you said.
I don't blame the delay until after the election so that Republicans can't use something that goes up annually anyway.
I don't blame him either. Any politician would do the same.
Obama said premiums would go down, not that the rate of increase would slow. Most people will find that if their premiums go down, their deductible, co-pays, co-insurance will go up and their network will shrink.
I do think those who come up with phony reasons for the delay are excuse-makers for the prez.
Got my notice today, back to back 65%+ increases approved this time by the covered California people that are campaigning to save their jobs via the defeat of prop 45.
Bronze Level Plan with Cigna:
2013 $217/mo
2014 $282/mo
2015 $457/mo
Now in all fairness, I will shop around and if I find something reasonable, I will revisit this post.
But the ACA is why we don't have actual universal healthcare, it's something the powers that be offered up as a bait and switch to let people think they were going to get access and delivery of affordable healthcare and instead bleed them dry financially and take just a little more freedom away.
If you support UH you should be attacking the ACA, not defending it.
I do support UH, I just have no interest in discarding ACA to make Republicans happy. If Republicans and some Democrats actually cared about healthcare insurance, then they too would be pushing for UH.
Ah yes, the usual attack the messenger rather then debate the topic thats so common here.
Fine I have a 6 figure income, and I voted for Obama...in fact a very large portion of people at my income level did. 44% to be specific
Oh wait, is that a inconvenient truth for you?
And they most likely wont again per recent polls...
At least some people arent dumb enough to support this nonsense.. Others I wonder how they manage to wakeup and get dressed without government telling them how..
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