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Old 10-21-2014, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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urban's on the dole? Well no damn wonder he defends Obama, he's a 47%er who got all tingly with his visions of free stuff when voting for Obama.
I am? Then where are all my free stuff?

Oh that's right, I work for a living and pay my own bills. Sorry to pop your bubble, but I fall into the category of middle class.

Oh and care to tell me who makes up that 47%? Right wingers never want to answer that question.
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Old 10-21-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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I am? Then where are all my free stuff?

Oh that's right, I work for a living and pay my own bills. Sorry to pop your bubble, but I fall into the category of middle class.

Oh and care to tell me who makes up that 47%? Right wingers never want to answer that question.
That 47% is those who dont pay income taxes.. Asked and answered..

And most people know that.. why dont you?
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Old 10-21-2014, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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That 47% is those who dont pay income taxes.. Asked and answered..

And most people know that.. why dont you?
Nice try kiddo, you dodged a question. Now who make up those that don't pay taxes in this country? Specifically.
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Old 10-21-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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Nice try kiddo, you dodged a question. Now who make up those that don't pay taxes in this country? Specifically.
The 47% refers to not paying federal income tax.
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I just got my rate notice for my retiree plan offered through my former employer. It is up 3% from last year and the only reason that happened is because the money that Obamacare had been subsidizing retiree plans with is drying up. I wish it were going down, of course, but a 3% year to year increase in health premiums is the lowest I have seen in a long, long time and maybe ever. The medicare eligible people in our plan actually had a cut in premiums for medicare advantage programs. It certainly seems to me that Obamacare is delivering on the promise of holding down medical care costs.
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Karl to Earnest: Why Do People Have To Wait Until After Election To See New Obamacare Premiums? | Video | RealClearPolitics

The president that promised to be the most transparent is once again proving to be the most opaque.

We'll tell you your premium increases after you vote...it had been October 1st in prior years, now for the election year it will be Nov. 15th.
Obama has not obeyed the law since congress passed it so this is now surprise
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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So health insurance premiums are going up? So they are doing the same thing that use to happen with insurance before ACA...
But it was promised they would go down...remember that? Increases were one of the complaints from the masses before ACA even launched and again, promised lower premiums. The premiums did go up but ours never doubled until they passed that stupid bill. We are looking at a 22% increase next year and already pay $1,100 for our insurance. If this is the way the liberals "fix" inequalities...they simply suck at fixing things.
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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But it was promised they would go down...remember that? Increases were one of the complaints from the masses before ACA even launched and again, promised lower premiums. The premiums did go up but ours never doubled until they passed that stupid bill. We are looking at a 22% increase next year and already pay $1,100 for our insurance. If this is the way the liberals "fix" inequalities...they simply suck at fixing things.
They did not believe the promises they just used his promises to fool the people
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:21 AM
 
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Karl to Earnest: Why Do People Have To Wait Until After Election To See New Obamacare Premiums? | Video | RealClearPolitics

The president that promised to be the most transparent is once again proving to be the most opaque.

We'll tell you your premium increases after you vote...it had been October 1st in prior years, now for the election year it will be Nov. 15th.
You can bet your ass if the new rates would make people applaud Obama and the dems for passing the ACA, the rates would have been released before the elections.
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The 47% refers to not paying federal income tax.
And who makes up the people not paying federal income tax? I see you guys love to use this number, but never want to mention who make up that number. Maybe because you don't want to admit that number makes up seniors, military, students, and handicap. When you take those four groups out of the 47%, the percentage no longer sounds good for right wingers to use.
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