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The temperature of the infected person who flew while having ebola is a reaction to the virus being attacked by a chemical called pyrogens that increase the temperature of the body. This nurse has a slight temperature and the virus was present but not at its peak. The more viral load the more contagious and sick the person is.
I'm skeptical that ebola is not contagious pre symptoms. HIV has a similar method of transmission and it's more contagious after initial infection just before the person develops acute retoviral syndrome.
I totally agree with you. If they were under observation they should never have been able to get on a plane. And Dallas is a major hub for international travel isn't it? Bet other countries are not too happy with our ineptness.
What does observation mean?
Should healthcare professionals who have contact with an Ebola patient be physically isolated and quarantined?
The authors of that article are not physicians and do not appear to understand the logistics of using those suits in Africa. The 3M hood pictured costs over $1000 each if you buy four. There are areas in Africa where there would be no reliable electricity to recharge the batteries, and it's hot over there.
Ivoc, who is an engineer, posted in one of the other threads here that it should be possible to make such a hood much less expensively.
Emory has managed to treat patients using standard hospital gear. They have hoods available, but use of them is apparently more for worker comfort than because they are felt to be necessary.
Even hoods have to be removed safely, too.
Informative videos on the Emory unit and its Ebola experience. You have to wonder why the Dallas hospital did not send someone to Emory to observe their procedures.
The article was about the Ebola virus having the potential to be airborne, so i do not see why you went on in detail about hazmat suits. If the virus ever gets airborne, nurses and doctors with hazmat suits will all but be irrelevant, because tens of millions of people will get the virus in very short order.
Granted, the virus would really need to climb over a lot of hurdles to evolve to that point, but we only know it's airborne after tens of thousands of us become effected.
Sounds like this healthcare professional broke protocol and traveled.
Should the protocol evolve to require forced physical isolation of any and all healthcare contacts? How many healthcare workers will be willing to be locked up during and after the last contact?
The woman probably thought there was no safety concern at all to travel on a plane, after all, the wise and sagely President Obama said:
“First, Ebola is not spread through the air like the flu,” Obama said in the video released by the White House Thursday. “You cannot get it through casual contact like sitting next to someone one a bus."
There has been one stupid, irresponsible comment after another, coming from 0bama administration. They make assumptions, and pass them off as if they were facts.
I keep remembering Ezekiel Emanuel's line of "when resources are scarce"...and how to prioritize treatment. I also recall in 2009 the CDC's plans to prioritize H1N1 treatment.
The potential demand for a vaccination was expected to exceed the actual supply.
CDC developed " recommendations "for priority of vaccination.
Sorry that you don't seem to agree that "a guideline" for priority is helpful when potential demand exceeds supply as it relates to vaccinations. No worries. There were probably enough people who don't trust /believe in science/vaccinations and there was enough for those who want to be vaccinated.
The nurses were not trained nor had the right gear to stay safe. The CDC said that collectively "we" were ready. The nurses said clearly they were NOT. Now who do you think was in la la land?
Takes many to make a bad call. It takes hindsight to recognize it.
The Hospital Infectious Disease Department, and
The Hospital Sr. Admin, and
The County, and
The State, and
CDC.
What you see in the Texas hospital is probably at all the other hospitals.
Here's an article about that.
My sister has told me the same thing. Inadequate training and no level 4 protective clothing.
Isolatioon is a room with a bathroom in it.
Nurses Say U.S. Hospitals Aren't Adequately Prepared To Handle Ebola Patients Any hospital with a private room and bathroom is technically adequate for isolating and treating an Ebola patient, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But to truly remove the risk of contracting the deadly virus among health workers requires meticulous work and years of repetitive drills and practice, according to nurses on the ground who also say that they are not receiving the proper training to protect themselves and their communities.
"We’ve been asking for training for protocols and we have not gotten it,” said Katy Roemer, RN, a nurse at Kaiser Oakland and a member of National Nurses United. "Pieces of paper are being handed to us with minimal instructions on it, and it’s not adequate to deal with a virus like Ebola.”
Curious....
When/where did CDC make this statement as it relates to Ebola?
Just wait till this finds it's way into the drug addict community.We are in for it then.
Street Sweepers. Sorry it's true.
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