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Old 10-15-2014, 12:27 AM
 
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This year?
We started with 30 million uninsured americans per Obama (the actual number was 36 million), which was justification to pass ACA, we are currently at 41 million, down for 46 million, and per the CBO wont ever hit less than 30 million uninsured..

And thats ignoring the employer mandate keeps getting delayed and millions getting medicaid.

budget expenditures are made over a decade, so $1T is over a 10 year period.. (I believe the total is something like $1.2T, but does it matter)

5 million losing insurance, spending over a trillion dollars while left wing loons cheer..

priceless..
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Old 10-15-2014, 12:28 AM
 
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cause YOUR LYING

Obamacare is expected to cost ONE TRILLION and caused millions to lose policies

but hey, you've got an agenda..
It takes 10 years for Obummercare to cost 1.35 trillion dollars. It takes Medicare and VA two years to spend the same amount of money. The programs you love and support cost taxpayers five times as much as obummercare. Obummercare depends on private companies and the programs you support depend on gubbermint single payer...socialism. You never know where you will find a socialist.
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Old 10-15-2014, 12:30 AM
 
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It takes 10 years for Obummercare to cost 1.35 trillion dollars. It takes Medicare and VA two years to spend the same amount of money. The programs you love and support cost taxpayers five times as much as obummercare. Obummercare depends on private companies and the programs you support depend on gubbermint single payer...socialism. You never know where you will find a socialist.
And I learned in math class that $1.35 trillion / 10 <> $16 billion...

you however keep repeating $16B as if it does..
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Old 10-15-2014, 12:32 AM
 
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No worries kid, Obama will just blame someone else... throw them under the bus.
So you are a full blown socialist and want Medicare for all and expect someone to pick up the tab for your healthcare?
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Old 10-15-2014, 12:35 AM
 
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We started with 30 million uninsured americans per Obama (the actual number was 36 million), which was justification to pass ACA, we are currently at 41 million, down for 46 million, and per the CBO wont ever hit less than 30 million uninsured..

And thats ignoring the employer mandate keeps getting delayed and millions getting medicaid.

budget expenditures are made over a decade, so $1T is over a 10 year period.. (I believe the total is something like $1.2T, but does it matter)

5 million losing insurance, spending over a trillion dollars while left wing loons cheer..

priceless..
We have less uninsured and repealing the ACA increases the deficit though.

Key Facts about the Uninsured Population | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation
http://kaiserfamilyfoundation.files....8-figure-2.png
U.S. Uninsured Rate Drops to 13.4%

CBO
Letter to the Honorable John Boehner providing an estimate for H.R. 6079, the Repeal of Obamacare Act | Congressional Budget Office
CBO: Repealing Obama healthcare law will increase budget deficit | TheHill
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Old 10-15-2014, 12:44 AM
 
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We have less uninsured and repealing the ACA increases the deficit though.
Both of those have already been proven a lie..

we went from 36 million uninsured to 41 million, which is MORE, not less

CBO Quietly Drops Forecast That Obamacare Will Cut the Deficit | The Fiscal Times
CBO and JCT currently estimate that the insurance coverage provisions alone of the ACA will have a net cost of just under $1.1 trillion over the 2012–2021 period. -
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Old 10-15-2014, 12:45 AM
 
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No worries kid, Obama will just blame someone else... throw them under the bus.
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So you are a full blown socialist and want Medicare for all and expect someone to pick up the tab for your healthcare?
You deducted that from my comment. Oh I see, you didn't realize it was sarcasm and you reek of desperation.

kid, didn't you get the memo? Obama is a has been, big money used him up. Two more years to go and they are already looking to the next identity politician.
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Old 10-15-2014, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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I've always wondered why Medicare (a variation of single payer health insurance) is great for those 65+ but is horrible for everyone else.

Medicare is also extended to people with qualifying disabilities at ANY AGE so about 20% of all Medicare recipients are under the age of 65 and some have never paid a penny in FICA taxes.
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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So you are a full blown socialist and want Medicare for all and expect someone to pick up the tab for your healthcare?

AS a socialist I don't want to single out anyone to pick up the tag, EVERYONE will pick up their part of the tab and we will ALL work as a team to make America a first-rate nation again. For those who don't want to get with the program and do their part there is always a re-education camp to make the desired attitude adjustment and instill a socialist work ethic.
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Old 10-15-2014, 01:16 AM
 
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Both of those have already been proven a lie..

we went from 36 million uninsured to 41 million, which is MORE, not less
We've had this discussion before I believe.

41 million were uninsured in 2001.
47 million were uninsured in 2006.
49.9 million were uninsured in 2010.
48.6 million were uninsured in 2011
48 million were uninsured in 2012
I don't see any hard numbers for 2013, but it appears to be greater than 47 million uninsured.

Overview of the Uninsured in the US: Analysis of the 2007 CPS

The uninsured rate increased every year from 2001 until 2007 (the only year it dropped) and then continued to rise until finally decreasing in 2011.

The Number of Uninsured Americans Is At An All-Time High &mdash; Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
Number of Uninsured Americans Drops - US News
https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/hlth...ighlights.html
More Americans Uninsured in 2011
Number Of Uninsured Americans Drops By 1.3 million - Kaiser Health News
https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/hlth...ighlights.html
48 Million Americans Remain Uninsured, Census Bureau Reports - Kaiser Health News

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CBO Quietly Drops Forecast That Obamacare Will Cut the Deficit | The Fiscal Times
CBO and JCT currently estimate that the insurance coverage provisions alone of the ACA will have a net cost of just under $1.1 trillion over the 2012–2021 period. -
That article is talking about the April forecast where the CBO stated too many variables had changed to make a prediction, but the first CBO link I gave you is from May where they reaffirmed a deficit reduction would occur.
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