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Old 10-15-2014, 09:03 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Nope. Yellowcake was the start down the road to invasion.
That's a delusion. Listen to Clinton and what he knew about Iraq's WMDs:


President Clinton orders attack on Iraq - YouTube
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:03 AM
 
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Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act into law. Signed, sealed, delivered.
And what did it say about an Iraq invasion? Do you dare read it beyond its title?
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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A tragic "oops".
Don't exepect the GWB defenders to read beyond the headlines. Hell, we have one arguing based on the name, not the content, of the "Iraqi Liberation Act". You think they read articles?
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:08 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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And what did it say about an Iraq invasion? Do you dare read it beyond its title?
My question exactly!

In WHAT universe does "support democratic movements within Iraq" translate to the full scale invasion/occupation of Iraq by outside forces?

Clinton obsession apparently changes the meaning of words.
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:09 AM
 
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Begs the question why do you not understand the act states " that it is the policy of the United States to support democratic movements within Iraq " and does nothing to mandate a full scale invasion/occupation?
You haven't read the following of the Iraq Liberation Act?

Section 4(a)(2): The President is authorized to direct the drawdown of defense articles from the stocks of the Department of Defense, defense services of the Department of Defense, and military education and training for such organizations.

If you don't like the outcome, why not hold the president who signed it into law (Clinton) accountable?
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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My question exactly!

In WHAT universe does "support democratic movements within Iraq" translate to the full scale invasion/occupation of Iraq by outside forces?

Clinton obsession apparently changes the meaning of words.
Yep. It sure do.
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:11 AM
 
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Got that? The act allows the President to issue military articles and training, not to exceed $97,000.000 in value, to Iraqi opposition groups.
And a bi-partisan Congress approved more than that, based on Clinton-era intel. Think about that.
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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You haven't read the following of the Iraq Liberation Act?

Section 4(a)(2): The President is authorized to direct the drawdown of defense articles from the stocks of the Department of Defense, defense services of the Department of Defense, and military education and training for such organizations.

If you don't like the outcome, why not hold the president who signed it into law (Clinton) accountable?
That - is not an invasion. That is arming and training opposition groups. And you have (of course) omitted the subheading B of 4(a)(2) - hell, you even took time to edit out the (A) in your quote - and doctored quotes, by the way, is really bad form:

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(B) The aggregate value (as defined in section 644(m) of
the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961) of assistance provided
under this paragraph may not exceed $97,000,000.
In the fact-based world, the Iraqi Liberation Act is not a carte blanche for an invasion of Iraq, quite the opposite. Now you can claim it is, remove what little integrity you have left, and drop all pretense of arguing on basis of facts. Or you can man up to your mistake. Your call.
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:17 AM
 
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And a bi-partisan Congress approved more than that, based on Clinton-era intel. Think about that.
Don't change the subject. Are you dropping your claim that the Iraq Liberation Act authorized an invasion? That's a yes-or-no question.
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:19 AM
 
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Going further in the same quote from wikipedia:

' In his January 2003 State of the Union speech, U.S. President George W. Bush said, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."[2] This single sentence is now known as "the Sixteen Words." '
The British government, by the way, never backed away from that assessment, thus Bush's infamous 16 words are as true now as when he spoke them.
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