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Mail online....George, you should be ashamed using that as a source for science.
Who ever said I was using that source for science? How about what that government minister Verma's quote about how "green initiatives" have slowed global warming?
Most Americans couldn't care less about the AGW hoax. We have much bigger issues to address and we are tired of the lies we hear from Obama and Al Gore. We know they only want to increase our taxes and increase government control of our lives. Give it up. We don't care about your AGW hoax anymore.
And you fail to see a problem with this?
Either the SCIENCE definitively shows this as an impending threat or it doesn't
Scientists manipulating data in order to produce more alarmist results in order to get attention and funding is simply wrong.
When you "cry wolf" to many times, it tends to backfire and people tune you out. Hence the title of the OP and hence the fact that climate change is about at the bottom of most people's priorities in most polls.
The exchange of money is the fact that tens of billions of dollars are allocated for more research and failed green initiatives, all predicated on more alarmism.
From a scientific standpoint yes. Science is the truth, attacking theories as hard a possible, and the 100% pure facts.
But from a human standpoint I see no problem with it (humans naturally protect themselves and their families.)
Scientists believe man made global warming could increase this planets temperature by 11.5 degrees in the next 80 years, and this would devastate the worlds most productive farming areas, ex.ex.
And some scientists when they see the things global warming could do, they then stop being scientists, and try to get everyone as scared as they are. Is this the behavior of a scientist? Hell no, but when you think something could kill your family (you some times exaggerate in an attempt to save them.)
3 million years ago, temps were 4F higher than today, when Co2 levels were around as high as they are today.... So if we stabilize Co2 levels to say 400ppm will we have an additional 4F warming in the pipeline? Not exactly. That will depend on the deep ocean circulation will do
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“We argue that it was the establishment of the modern deep ocean circulation – the ocean conveyor – about 2.7 million years ago, and not a major change in carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere that triggered an expansion of the ice sheets in the northern hemisphere,” says Stella Woodard, lead author and a post-doctoral researcher in the Department of Marine and Coastal Sciences. Their findings, based on ocean sediment core samples between 2.5 million to 3.3 million years old, provide scientists with a deeper understanding of the mechanisms of climate change today.
The study shows that changes in heat distribution between the ocean basins is important for understanding future climate change. However, scientists can’t predict precisely what effect the carbon dioxide currently being pulled into the ocean from the atmosphere will have on climate. Still, they argue that since more carbon dioxide has been released in the past 200 years than any recent period in geological history, interactions between carbon dioxide, temperature changes and precipitation, and ocean circulation will result in profound changes.
Scientists believe that the different pattern of deep ocean circulation was responsible for the elevated temperatures 3 million years ago when the carbon dioxide level in the atmosphere was arguably what it is now and the temperature was 4 degree Fahrenheit higher. They say the formation of the ocean conveyor cooled the earth and created the climate we live in now
Bill Gray has been arguing that ocean circulations are the primary drivers of global temperatures for years now
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The Ocean as the Primary Driver for Global Climate Change
This paper hypothesizes that it is variations in the global ocean’s Meridional Overturning Circulation
(MOC) that are the primary driver of climate change over the last few thousand years. These
changes are manifested in alterations of the deep water formation of the Atlantic Thermohaline
Circulation (THC) and the Surrounding Antarctica Subsidence (SAS) regions (Figure 10). Figure 11
shows how the MOC is a combination of the high latitude deep water formation of the Atlantic THC
and the Antarctic SAS region. These deep water formation changes are driven by upper ocean
salinity variations on various multi-decadal to multi-century time scales. Figure 12 shows typical
Atlantic Ocean current differences when the Atlantic THC is strong (and more sinking is occurring)
and when it is weak (and less sinking is occurring).
Yes, the whole world is very much aware of that.
Americans comprise only 5% of the global population, and yet gobble up almost a third of the global resources.
The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for September 2014 was the highest on record for September, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average of 15.0°C (59.0°F).
The global land surface temperature was 0.89°C (1.60°F) above the 20th century average of 12.0°C (53.6°F), the sixth highest for September on record.
For the ocean, the September global sea surface temperature was 0.66°C (1.19°F) above the 20th century average of 16.2°C (61.1°F), the highest on record for September and also the highest on record for any month.
The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the January–September period (year-to-date) was 0.68°C (1.22°F) above the 20th century average of 14.1°C (57.5°F), tying with 1998 as the warmest such period on record.
NOAA National Climatic Data Center, State of the Climate:
Global Analysis for September 2014, published online October 2014,
retrieved on October 28, 2014 from http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/9.
Because the mechanism behind greenhouse gases and their contribution to climate is understood in the sense that increasing them will warm the planet.... And greenhouse gases are a large by product of our increasing energy use. We just don't understand, enough, the entire complexity of our climate.
And there is absolutely NO PROOF that CO2 warms the planet. It is nothing but a theory.
The Earths climate is 90% driven by the activity of the core of the Earth and the core is driven by the activity of the sun.
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