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Old 10-17-2014, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Take moving out of the equation. How about a target that's shooting back? His results are not uncommon. You shoot to stop a threat you don't shoot to kill. His shooting stopped the threat. The job was done. So .380 is effective, eh? Here's a guy who was shot 5 times in the face with .38 special and then managed to get to his car and drive away.

Homeowner shoots intruder in Walton County - CBS46 News

There's an old saying in the gun world: What does someone normally do after they've been shot with a handgun? Whatever they were doing before they were shot with a handgun.

I took at look at one of the retailers you suggested. WWB 9x19 is 14.99 per box while .380 is 21.99.

Winchester® USA Handgun Ammunition – Per 50 : Cabela's

I shoot about 4 boxes an hour usually so we're talking 28.00 more per hour to shoot a smaller, inferior round. No thanks. There are also numerous gun options out there far superior to that Bersa in 9x19 that have similar ergonomics, demensions, weight, trigger pull, end etc. I work in the industry locally and nobody stocks .380 so it's hard to find here. It may be a regional supply issue or maybe nobody stocks it because it's an inferior round. Who knows but either way up here it's hard to find.

In conclusion: Friends don't let friends buy .380s.........
I have a Colt .380. It is a nice little gun. Ammunition is readily available.
I also have a .38 Super. Now THERE is ammunition that is difficult to find!
I would like to have a .30 carbine revolver, but that ammunition is a little difficult to find, too.

However, in regards to the OP, better training is definitely in order. "Gun control" is hitting your target!
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Old 10-18-2014, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I never changed the subject I simply commented on his shooting skills or shall I say the lack of skills. You seem awfully bent out of shape that I replied on the topic but instead of simply say Hurray I added a critic, if you have that much of a problem with me simply ignore my posts, it would help you deal with that anger issue you seem to have going there.
Oh by the way he was not shooting back, the article says the kid shot at the other guy once, not at the man with the gun. Nope you just proved you know squat about how to deal with a shooting, you shoot center mass and the point is to stop them and by doing so you often kill them. So what, people have been shot by .44mags and lived to talk about it, your point is pointless, it is all in the luck of the draw and what is actually hit. So not a bad price for a round that is not as popular, in many stores 9mms can be hard to even get I know this by personal experience, far too many people have them. Shop around. Maybe it is hard in your area, here in Texas they are quit common. FYI: Bersa are fine guns and there are more than a few Real Gun Experts out there that will attest to the fact, go to Google and watch a few real shooters comment on them. I personally have NEVER had a stoppage with either of the two I own and yet my high dollar Kimber has had more than a few due to being picky about the ammo that is run through it. Here is a suggestion, don't like the Bersa brand, don't buy one, don't like the .380 then don't own one, those are your options, for me they have worked out great.
I don't like underpowered, over priced rounds so I don't buy them. You rant is entertaining though. Thanks for posting.
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Old 10-18-2014, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Ahhh, I see I was correct in my assumption, you are only here to argue and not actually discuss anything. Once again we see that some posters are not here to discuss issues or topics their only goal is to argue with anyone they consider the other guys, even when they are agreeing with their stand on an issue. Me thinks we are done discussing anything here since there is obviously no point in even attempting to they always lead down the mud pit some seem to prefer.

Have a Great Life, Rick
Moving on
Allow me to assist as you son't seem to understand. This is an internet forum. People post and then people respond. People often disagree. If you don't like it I'm glad you're moving on. Of course I can already see you've made further posts in the thread after stating you're moving on. I beg to laugh.....
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Old 10-18-2014, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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To see if they are still standing,. I teach women to empty the gun, then reload and then pause.
I hope that your students aren't stupid enough to take your asinine advice.
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Old 10-18-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Allow me to assist as you son't seem to understand. This is an internet forum. People post and then people respond. People often disagree. If you don't like it I'm glad you're moving on. Of course I can already see you've made further posts in the thread after stating you're moving on. I beg to laugh.....
Slow on the up take are ya, I moved on from You. You have shown all you want to do is argue, and not only on this thread, so find someone interested, I'm not.
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Old 10-19-2014, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Slow on the up take are ya, I moved on from You. You have shown all you want to do is argue, and not only on this thread, so find someone interested, I'm not.
yet you still reply to my post.....
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Old 10-19-2014, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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In the Military I was taught that my rifle was a weapon, my "gun" was something to play with in the shower..... I wonder if it's not more than a coincidence that the "gun nuts" love their "guns"?
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Old 10-19-2014, 05:18 AM
 
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I have a Colt .380. It is a nice little gun. Ammunition is readily available.
I also have a .38 Super. Now THERE is ammunition that is difficult to find!
I would like to have a .30 carbine revolver, but that ammunition is a little difficult to find, too.

However, in regards to the OP, better training is definitely in order. "Gun control" is hitting your target!
In most "shoot outs", no one gets hit. Ask police officers.

Real life is not like a Clint Eastwood movie.
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Old 10-19-2014, 05:20 AM
 
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In the Military I was taught that my rifle was a weapon, my "gun" was something to play with in the shower..... I wonder if it's not more than a coincidence that the "gun nuts" love their "guns"?
The guy in the story had a hand "gun", not a rifle.
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Old 10-19-2014, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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The guy in the story had a hand "gun", not a rifle.
Don't feed the trolls. The foaming at the mouth anti-gun moonbat wackjobs aren't worth the time.....
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