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So one should never place one's self in a position where one is under their control in a hostile environment - like by CHOOSING to STEAL trinkets (e.g., DVD movies) that one does not really need. Right?
This is all just Darwinism at work. Let's hope the perp didn't breed before being removed from the gene pool.
Maybe the "perp" is of low I.Q. and was just following the instructions of another and really didn't know better? You still don't understand the concept yet do you?
Maybe the "perp" is of low I.Q. and was just following the instructions of another and really didn't know better? You still don't understand the concept yet do you?
Following the instructions of another doesnt immune one from consequences.
not knowing better, doesnt immune one from consequences.
In some countries he would have already had his hands or arms cut off.
The bottom line is if you make the choice to steal you make the choice to go to jail.
Jail is not supposed to be a vacation, it is supposed to be punishment but there are many in jail who have better
health care, food and resources for help and education than those who have not committed a crime, are working but cannot afford health care, insurance and proper food for their families.
"Society" cannot be judged. "Society" is a euphemism for an arbitarily chosen grouping of individuals. INDIVIDUALS are judged by how they treat others. I cannot be judged for how you behave.
As for the "self centeredness" you want to rail on about... The idea that YOU believe YOU are entitled to what OTHERS work for, that YOU believe YOU are entitled to control OTHER'S labors to achieve YOUR wants and wishes, is the precise, definitive, and perfectly demonstrated example of complete and utter self centeredness.
I am glad you were able to read his post, because I could not. I suspect that English is not bUU's first language, considering the atrocious grammar. I found the entire post to be completely incoherent.
Following the instructions of another doesnt immune one from consequences.
not knowing better, doesnt immune one from consequences.
At what age does one learn not to steal?
I think I was about 5 or 6 years old when I learned about the concept of personal property. Before that I gave away my toys to my friends, and I took their toys for my own, without giving a second thought as to who actually owned them.
By age 7 I certainly understood that taking something that was not mine without permission was wrong.
By the time someone reaches adulthood, if they cannot comprehend the difference between right and wrong, then they belong locked away in a mental institution, not in society. If they know the difference between right and wrong, and choose to do the wrong thing anyway, then they deserve to be punished.
I think I was about 5 or 6 years old when I learned about the concept of personal property. Before that I gave away my toys to my friends, and I took their toys for my own, without giving a second thought as to who actually owned them.
If at 5-6 someone you trusted told you to do something wrong, you would have done it. Yes, you will protest now but you would have done it.
I think I was about 5 or 6 years old when I learned about the concept of personal property. Before that I gave away my toys to my friends, and I took their toys for my own, without giving a second thought as to who actually owned them.
By age 7 I certainly understood that taking something that was not mine without permission was wrong.
By the time someone reaches adulthood, if they cannot comprehend the difference between right and wrong, then they belong locked away in a mental institution, not in society. If they know the difference between right and wrong, and choose to do the wrong thing anyway, then they deserve to be punished.
The original post was not about what the youngster did to get locked up, it was about the evil, criminal conduct of those who left their prisoner to die in the manner described.
Why is it that such discussions always turn to naming the offenses of the victim instead of responding to the topic of the brutality of either the police, or in this case, corrections officers? That is because you all most likely do not take offense to the conduct of the authorities.
If you are going to reply at all with forthrightness, don't chicken out and malign the dead. If you condone the conduct of the authorities, then why be afraid to just say so?
Maybe the "perp" is of low I.Q. and was just following the instructions of another and really didn't know better? You still don't understand the concept yet do you?
I understand the concept quite well: Making Excuses.
When did making excuses ever solve a problem?
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Originally Posted by pknopp
In Tennard v. Dretke the U.S. Supreme court ruled that very low I.Q. can indeed be used as a valid defense and a reason to find someone not guilty.
The issue is mens rea (the ability to form intent).
The Supreme Court erred. IQ is not a determiner. Persons with "low" IQs can still form intent. What the Supreme Court did was set a dangerous precedent by effectively establishing a bench-mark for guilt.
Mens rea has to be determined on an individual case-by-case basis, not some arbitrary IQ where every at or below that number is "not guilty."
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Originally Posted by pnwmdk
Wow, more incomprehensible noise.
"Society" cannot be judged. "Society" is a euphemism for an arbitarily chosen grouping of individuals. INDIVIDUALS are judged by how they treat others. I cannot be judged for how you behave.
As for the "self centeredness" you want to rail on about... The idea that YOU believe YOU are entitled to what OTHERS work for, that YOU believe YOU are entitled to control OTHER'S labors to achieve YOUR wants and wishes, is the precise, definitive, and perfectly demonstrated example of complete and utter self centeredness.
That's excellent.
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Originally Posted by Workin_Hard
This is all just Darwinism at work. Let's hope the perp didn't breed before being removed from the gene pool.
Yes, indeed.
In days gone by, Society would have filled him full of arrows and left on a glacier, just like Ice Man.
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Originally Posted by bUU
Society is measured by how it treats its most vulnerable members...
Oh, yes, more Orwellian Double NewSpeak.
Does "most vulnerable members" include Ivy League Ivory Tower Pukes?
Which "society?"
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Originally Posted by Glitch
This was a government jail. The Madison County jail to be specific.
If at 5-6 someone you trusted told you to do something wrong, you would have done it. Yes, you will protest now but you would have done it.
If I knew it to be wrong, no I would not have "done it." However, there was still a lot that I did not know was wrong at that age. For example, if an adult handed me a beer at that age, I would have drunk it because I did not know it was the wrong thing to do.
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