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Old 10-21-2014, 12:55 PM
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We've already had two elections under this law, and minority voting rates remained exactly the same. All voting rates remained the same in fact. Voter ID laws have had absolutely ZERO negative effect on voter participation in Texas. So...tell me again who is disenfranchised?
But why are college student IDs not accepted but handgun licenses accepted?

Supreme Court allows strict Texas Voter ID law.

Sounds like it's aimed at certain groups based on voting behavior.
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Old 10-21-2014, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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But why are college student IDs not accepted but handgun licenses accepted?

Supreme Court allows strict Texas Voter ID law.

Sounds like it's aimed at certain groups based on voting behavior.
Because you don't have to prove citizenship with student ID's.

Illegals can get student ID's, foreign students can get student ID's.

And that is why student ID's are not valid. You do not have to show any proof besides your paid schedule to get one.
Many also do not have expiration dates among other items required to be on them.

And that is applicable in most states.
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Old 10-21-2014, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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But why are college student IDs not accepted but handgun licenses accepted?

Supreme Court allows strict Texas Voter ID law.

Sounds like it's aimed at certain groups based on voting behavior.
For starters, let's get this particular fact straight - Texas is only one of THIRTY THREE states which require a voter to show ID prior to voting.

The only forms of ID allowed are ID's issued by the Department of Public Safety, the US military, or certain Federal IDs (passport, citizenship certificates) which have a photo.

No photo IDs issued by any other entities - including but not limited to schools - are authorized.

The Election Identification Certificates issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety are free and easy to obtain.
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Old 10-21-2014, 03:50 PM
 
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But why are college student IDs not accepted but handgun licenses accepted?

Supreme Court allows strict Texas Voter ID law.

Sounds like it's aimed at certain groups based on voting behavior.
In Texas, your concealed handgun license is a legal, state-issued ID. It means that your identity has been established, you are a Texas resident and citizen/legal resident of the United States and you have been subject to an extensive background check. You can present this to a law enforcement officer, a judge or anyone else that would require a legal ID.

Your college ID is not sufficient to establish that you are even of majority age and is not legal ID for the purchase of tobacco. Having a student ID issued to you by a university means very little other than you have (probably) metriculated at the issuing institution; it does not verify your age, your citizenship status or any number of key stats that would corroborate your legal right to vote in Texas.

Is it really that surprising?
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Old 10-21-2014, 03:59 PM
 
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HA-HA... I voted today. Walked up, gave my VoterID card. I had my driver's license ready to hand as the Clerk reached for it. I pulled it back. She moved her hand back. I pushed the DL back towards her then pulled it back. Grinned, said 'Should I? Maybe not? Should I?' She said, 'If you want to vote you will.'

I said, 'Gladly,' and handed her my DL.

There was also a card reader that scanned the bar code on my voter registration. That was in no way tied to my ballot. That's a random - you choose - from one of three sheets.

There were ten people voting at the time I did, and a constant trickle while I was there. Central - nowhere - Texas.
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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When people are mad, dissatisfied, etc. they get out and vote. Which is why I predict a very big turnout in the next primaries.
Unless they feel like their vote won't matter. I would be surprised if Texas gets 25% of the state to vote.
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Old 10-21-2014, 11:28 PM
 
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Are there really 600,000 people in Texas who can't cash a check, buy liquor, enter a courthouse, buy a plane ticket, go to a NAACP meeting or take part in any other activity where a drivers license or state ID card is required?

Nonsense, it's the left trying to take away our vote.
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Old 10-22-2014, 05:23 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Getting people to vote in a state is very much that own state's problem. So what has Texas done to encourage their own citizens to vote? Texas should be ashamed at how low their voter participation is.

With Voter ID, the participation numbers have increased.
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Old 10-22-2014, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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With Voter ID, the participation numbers have increased.
Prove it, from what I saw the numbers have been flat.
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Old 10-22-2014, 11:41 AM
 
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Prove it, from what I saw the numbers have been flat.
I agree that it's been pretty flat.

The percentage of the "voting-age population" that has been registered to vote hovered around 70% prior to the 2011 voter ID law. It's been hovering around 72% since, but that doesn't mean much.

As far as turnout is concerned, I doubt that there has been a statistically significant impact. Presidential elections see about 8 MM voters, gubernatorial elections about half of that and midterms see less than 1 MM, like clockwork.
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