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Old 10-21-2014, 01:00 AM
 
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It wouldn't matter if he were honest. Conservatives would still ***** about everything under the sun. Admit the real reason conservatives hate him.

LOL. You do see his failures, but you can't come to terms with it. But it's clear as to why you defend him.
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Old 10-21-2014, 01:06 AM
 
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So the qualification for being a "success" is a 100% honest politician?

Yea... to heck with policy or results.
A politician wouldn't be a politician if s/he was 100% honest. Americans expect a certain level of dishonesty from politicians. The problem is that Obama ran and served as President on nothing but deceit and dishonesty, which would make him one of the best politicians this country has ever seen.
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Old 10-21-2014, 01:09 AM
 
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Conservatives would dislike President Obama regardless of what he does or says...
The same reasons why liberals continue their love affair with Obama?
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Old 10-21-2014, 01:11 AM
 
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Are you that naive. All politicians are disingenuous. But it doesn't really matter though because most vote party lines no matter what.
I agree, except I don't think that was the case for many during the last two elections.
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Old 10-21-2014, 01:14 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Swing and a miss. Steeee-rike 1.

Romney vetoed many sections of the healthcare law we have here in Mass only to be overridden by the deep blue legislature.





FYI: the Senate is part of Congress. That obviously needs to be explained to you. Also the Obamacare trainwreck was not voted into law by Congress. It was passed through reconciliation after Obama couldn't get enough votes despite majorities in both chambers. I've seen that the term "Obamacare" was first used by a liberal blogger but why does that matter? If Obamacare is so great (some say it's Obama's signature achievement) why is there a problem attaching his name to it?


DNC website calls it Obamacare.
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Old 10-21-2014, 01:59 AM
 
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Conservatives would dislike President Obama regardless of what he does or says...
Obama is like an abusive husband and his followers are like the abused wife. They'll stick by him no matter how he hurts them. By the way, Obama's cheating on you.. he's having affairs with RICH people but he tells you he only cares about you.
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Old 10-21-2014, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Every wise politician knows it: Man is ice to truth, fire to falsehoods!

"Alright, you masochists, you want the truth? Here it is! We've lied all along, Social Security/Medicare funds are going to run out next year, right after this country declares bankruptcy!"

"Now aren't you sorry you insisted upon the truth!"

How do you like that now? All that rioting and anarchy going on!!!
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Old 10-21-2014, 03:46 AM
 
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what if all politicians were honest? What if Romney were to release all of his tax records? What if...

Looko like it or not he is going to be president til 2016, all people do is whine and complain here it seems like. With Obama as the centerpeice.

people, he is a president, he has very little actual power, and yet its Obama Obama Obama. Why is that?

What if people started to actual blame those responsible.....
Obama is the one responsible. Every law that Congress passes and every dollar that congress spends is signed by Obama. Obama is responsible for Fast & Furious, the VA, the IRS, Benghazi, etc even though he wasn't personally involved in them because he did nothing about them. There are things over which he does have no control but gets blamed anyway, like the price of gasoline. But any action taken by the federal government he is ultimately responsible for even if he had nothing to do with the action itself as long as he did nothing about it.

He didn't personally send guns to drug cartels, but after finding out that his Justice Department did it he tried to cover it up instead of making an announcement denouncing it and firing Holder, who did know about it and lie to Congress about it.

Obama probably knew nothing about the denied security requests in Benghazi, but after the attack he participated in the attempt to blame a youtube video on it to cover up the fact that his State Department denied those requests in face of a clear and present terrorist threat.

He probably didn't personally order the IRS to target conservative groups, but he participating in covering that up too afterwards.

He didn't personally let veterans die without medical care, but he was informed of the problem years ago and vowed to get to the bottom of it and then did nothing about solving it.

There is no escaping Obama's corruption and/or incompetence. He was either negligent in his duties as President if you believe his lame excuses to know nothing about anything going on, or else he was dishonest and complicit in government corruption. One or the other.
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:17 AM
 
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Conservatives would dislike President Obama regardless of what he does or says...
Liberals will madly be in love with Obama regardless of how much he out Bushes Bush on most issues.



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Are you that naive. All politicians are disingenuous. But it doesn't really matter though because most vote party lines no matter what.
Are you that much of a sheep?

All humans are somewhat disingenuous at times, that doesn't mean all humans are equally disingenuous or that we should excuse large quantities of disingenuous from our president.

Obama is extremely disingenuous even by politician standards.

Remember, he is a failure, because you excuse it away and he has no reason to genuine on anything, because you will keep baahing out excuses and diversions for him.
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Old 10-21-2014, 06:02 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Are you that naive. All politicians are disingenuous. But it doesn't really matter though because most vote party lines no matter what.

So, Ron Paul wasn't a politician....
We knew that. It is the reason he had no chance, against the stacked deck of lies.
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