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Old 10-22-2014, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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How about we just let the market regulate itself? Seems like the best option.

We already control food and oil prices in this country. We give large farming subsidies to growers of certain crops, even paying some farmers not to farm their fields. We give large tax write offs to oil companies on wells that don't work out.

I say we just let the market decide winners and losers. Quit the subsidy and tax write off game.
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Old 10-22-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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since we have someone here suggesting that $10 a gallon in like Europe would be great - it would encourage people to dive less (lol)...

why not also tax the heck out of groceries, and raise them to the price point they are in Europe. Why would we want a higher standard of living, if we could just all take our expendable income and hand it to the Government? They know what's best for us

This is The United States of America this is not Europe, why compare the two and why would we want to be like another country?

If you do not like living in The United States of America with everything as it is then move to Europe and be happy.

PS ~~ Don't let the customs door hit you on the behind as you leave. One more thing, don't forget to turn off the lights if you are the last one out.
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Old 10-22-2014, 09:16 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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How about we just let the market regulate itself? Seems like the best option.

We already control food and oil prices in this country. We give large farming subsidies to growers of certain crops, even paying some farmers not to farm their fields. We give large tax write offs to oil companies on wells that don't work out.

I say we just let the market decide winners and losers. Quit the subsidy and tax write off game.

Indeed.
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Old 10-22-2014, 09:23 AM
 
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This is The United States of America this is not Europe, why compare the two and why would we want to be like another country?

If you do not like living in The United States of America with everything as it is then move to Europe and be happy.

PS ~~ Don't let the customs door hit you on the behind as you leave. One more thing, don't forget to turn off the lights if you are the last one out.
Europe is not like Europe. Each country is different.
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Old 10-22-2014, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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since we have someone here suggesting that $10 a gallon in like Europe would be great - it would encourage people to dive less (lol)...

why not also tax the heck out of groceries, and raise them to the price point they are in Europe. Why would we want a higher standard of living, if we could just all take our expendable income and hand it to the Government? They know what's best for us
Make fuel prices $10 a gallon and the cost of food will skyrocket without any food price intervention as it will be very expensive to get food to the stores and cost more to heat and cool the places where they are packaged for sale. Maybe that's why Europe's food is so expensive.
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Old 10-22-2014, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The United States has a cheap food policy, and there's no good reason to change it.
We have cheap food because we are the producers; the bread basket to the world.

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Not sure where you get the idea that food is expensive in europe, this may be true for some european countries but I can say it is not true in the UK. When I first moved to the US I was shocked at the price of most staple grocery goods, I had been paying 22p (about 35cents) for a loaf of white bread, the same over here was $2.99 or more.
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Here's the average household expenditure for food by country:
USA: 6.6%

UK: 9.1%
Germany: 10.9%
Sweden: 11.5%
Finland: 11.9%
Norway: 12.9%
France: 13.2%
Italy: 14.2%
Greece: 16.5%
This is a byproduct of having cheap energy as well. If it costs less to produce, the free market will drive prices down.

WE should be pumping through the XL by now. THIS would have created jobs, and would help speed up our oil independence.

As you've seen recently, OPEC has begun trying to make oil so cheap that the US producers will be forced to stop drilling here. After all, it worked the last two times they did it.

This time is different, and anything over $50-60 per barrel is profitable. We could see $2.50 gas at the pumps again. However, let's be clear; this is in spite of Obama's regulations and stingy permitting, not because of it. In the scheme of things his attempt to drive prices up and keep us on the Saudi teet has been a colossal failure.
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Old 10-22-2014, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Make fuel prices $10 a gallon and the cost of food will skyrocket without any food price intervention as it will be very expensive to get food to the stores and cost more to heat and cool the places where they are packaged for sale. Maybe that's why Europe's food is so expensive.
After I posted, I looked up and was blessed with a like mind. These facts are obvious to anyone with economic sense.


Like they say "great minds" and all that.
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Old 10-22-2014, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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"coal turbine"?
What ??

Coal is the primary heat source that drives the vast majority of the power generating steam turbines in this country.
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Old 10-22-2014, 10:36 AM
 
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The thing about taking ideas from europe, is you really can't take them piecemeal like this. It's gotta be pretty much all or nothing. None of their policies work independent of each other. They are all connected in some way.
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Old 10-22-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: USA
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Yes, while we're at it, let's just raise the price of EVERYTHING and decimate the economy. 3% or so of the population can live well while the other 97% live like Haitians. Crime will skyrocket, cities will burn from civil unrest and everything will be awesome!

Where do some of these posters come up with these ideas?
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