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Old 10-21-2014, 06:14 PM
 
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Sierra Pacific Industries, California Company, Reaches $122.5 Million Settlement For Starting Wildfire
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SACRAMENTO, July 17 [2012] (Reuters) - Logging company Sierra Pacific Industries agreed to pay the United States $122.5 million in damages to settle a lawsuit...

...The blaze was sparked by employees of the logging company and a contractor who struck a rock with a bulldozer, prosecutors said, sending sparks into the dry ground on a day the National Weather Service had issued a red flag warning, indicating a high fire danger.

The smoldering fire went unnoticed because the employees skipped a company-required fire patrol, prosecutors said.

"Instead, the designated fire watch left the work area and drove 30 minutes away to get a soda. When he returned over an hour later, there was a 100-foot wall of smoke billowing from the work area," the Department of Justice said in a statement.
Notice how the claims by the DOJ should be enough for judgment against Sierra Pacific lumber? Yet, they settled. Why? Turns out it was a sham, shakedown, an Eric Holder dirty trick. DOJ attorneys turned whistleblowers (paraphrased quote in subject line) have Judge England shaking so bad he recused himself from the mess.

Government case implodes as its former lawyers allege fraud against Holder DOJ | Power Line
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:12 PM
 
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Sierra Pacific Industries, California Company, Reaches $122.5 Million Settlement For Starting Wildfire
Notice how the claims by the DOJ should be enough for judgment against Sierra Pacific lumber? Yet, they settled. Why? Turns out it was a sham, shakedown, an Eric Holder dirty trick. DOJ attorneys turned whistleblowers (paraphrased quote in subject line) have Judge England shaking so bad he recused himself from the mess.

Government case implodes as its former lawyers allege fraud against Holder DOJ | Power Line
lol

Seriously?

Sierra-Pacific settled to avoid going to trial, where they would have lost and ended up having to pay a larger fine.

Sierra-Pacific broke the law and caused a great deal of damage and they had to pay for it.
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Old 10-21-2014, 10:18 PM
 
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The DOJ should not be about collecting settlements. That does not represent the people.
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Old 10-21-2014, 10:27 PM
 
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The DOJ should not be about collecting settlements. That does not represent the people.
Who are you to decide what does and doesn't represent the people? Companies that break the law must be held accountable and that is exactly one of the things the DOJ is supposed to do. The DOJ did not fine them, they chose to settle in order to avoid going to trial where it likely would have ended up being worse for them.
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Old 10-21-2014, 10:33 PM
 
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If you search Sierra Pacific, you will see the case in full collapse. You're right, it does represent the people, ala Eric "my people" Holder.
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Old 10-21-2014, 10:46 PM
 
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If you search Sierra Pacific, you will see the case in full collapse. You're right, it does represent the people, ala Eric "my people" Holder.
Not sure what the DOJ and Holder have to do with this at all. Sierra Pacific's beef is largely with CalFire, not the US government, which simply used CalFire's results, and how they investigated the origins of the fire. A court found CalFire acted improperly and already reversed a settlement with the state of California. Sierra Pacific is trying to get the settlement with the US Govt overturned because of what they claim is CalFire's initially shoddy investigation because the US Govt's case was based on CalFire's findings. There is no evidence at all that the DOJ did anything wrong or in any way had anything to do with except for the typical right wing innuendo, which is just as typically worthless. The Observer's frothing at the mouth opinion piece, absolutely misleading, is a joke.
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Old 10-21-2014, 11:01 PM
 
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More outsourcing to benefit the Holder. When fired DOJ attorneys come forward now, knowing how shoddy the investigation was, the case should have been dropped, then. Justice is not about settling. Those wildlife corridors would have been nice for the people, though.
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Old 10-21-2014, 11:11 PM
 
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More outsourcing to benefit the Holder. When fired DOJ attorneys come forward now, knowing how shoddy the investigation was, the case should have been dropped, then. Justice is not about settling. Those wildlife corridors would have been nice for the people, though.

There is no evidence whatsoever that what you state is true. The alleged misconduct in the DOJ is based upon statements by E. Robert Wright and involved his superior, David Shelledy and it had nothing to do with the evidence involving how the fire actually got started, but over estimates of how much monetary damage the fire had caused. Neither Wright or Shelledy were Obama appointees, both men had worked for the DOJ going back at least to the 80s (in fact, Wright was assigned to the case in 2008 under George W. Bush) and Wright makes no claim at all that Holder had any involvement in what allegedly occurred, chalking it up to a personal dispute between he and Shelledy over whether revised estimates of the monetary damage caused by the fire fell under defense "discovery" rules or not.
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