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Yeah they should have never taken the heritage foundation plan implemented by Romney as a basis for it. They should have just tried to get universal healthcare. (no im not being sarcastic).
But yeah I expect the GOP will struggle along until their inability to represent the majority reaches a critical point as a result of changing demographics.
They offered a great deal more actually. Starting with a massive tax increase on the middle-class and lower incomes in January 2009, followed with spending trillions on "shovel ready jobs" which turned out to be a deliberate lie, followed by spending more than $26,000 for every junker they bought in their taxpayer-paid "Cash for Clunkers" scam. All of that occurred before they royally screwed over Americans with ObamaCare.
This always happens whenever Democrats are put in control of Congress. Before 2008 it happened in 1993-1994, and from 1976 to 1980. It is no coincidence that whenever there is a financial crisis and an economy crippled by recession, Democrats are always in control.
Again (and again) it's ain't over until the fat lady sings. Don't take anything for granted. VOTE!
Having said that, it does look like the GOP is going to do well next week.
Also having said that, they had better get their freakin' act together, find some decent candidates for 2016, quit sayin' stupid and come up a one page plan filled with details to fix the things that need fixing. If they don't do that, then they're screwed in 2016. And so are we.
Last edited by Ibginnie; 10-28-2014 at 12:24 PM..
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So I am a Republican Conservative (note that Republican comes before Conservative in how i say that)
I want my party to win. I’m good with my party being a big tent of moderates and conservatives.
That being said, I do NOT in any way see this election as the death Nell for democrats.
Even if it is a "wave" election that sweeps Republicans to big numbers in the House and control of the Senate, I do NOT see it as a "sea change election"
First of all, at this point, I see democrat voters as fed up with their own party not doing much of anything in the senate, and feeling like Obama is not a good manager. They aren’t happy with some things like the perceived confusion over how the Ebola issue is being handled, the ISIS Crisis (that was fun to type) and other foreign policy issues.
I believe they also see him as mishandling the economy because of his perceived management lapses.
What I DO NOT see is Democrat voters making a connection between the Democrat policies that have been enacted, and what they see as economic instability and international chaos.
What I DO NOT see from the Republican party is any association between democrat policy and what democrat voters are unhappy about.
So they may stay home, or even “protest vote” but there is no ideology change that would warrant worry by democrats over their party falling apart.
The beating the Republicans took when Obama ran the first time, was very nearly a “sea change” political wave. In fact, while voters are turning on Obama, the National Republican Party remains in such disarray that they cannot take this opportunity to convince voters that the issue is a policy issue and not a failed management issue.
So I am a Republican Conservative (note that Republican comes before Conservative in how i say that)
I want my party to win. I’m good with my party being a big tent of moderates and conservatives.
That being said, I do NOT in any way see this election as the death Nell for democrats.
Even if it is a "wave" election that sweeps Republicans to big numbers in the House and control of the Senate, I do NOT see it as a "sea change election"
First of all, at this point, I see democrat voters as fed up with their own party not doing much of anything in the senate, and feeling like Obama is not a good manager. They aren’t happy with some things like the perceived confusion over how the Ebola issue is being handled, the ISIS Crisis (that was fun to type) and other foreign policy issues.
I believe they also see him as mishandling the economy because of his perceived management lapses.
What I DO NOT see is Democrat voters making a connection between the Democrat policies that have been enacted, and what they see as economic instability and international chaos.
What I DO NOT see from the Republican party is any association between democrat policy and what democrat voters are unhappy about.
So they may stay home, or even “protest vote†but there is no ideology change that would warrant worry by democrats over their party falling apart.
The beating the Republicans took when Obama ran the first time, was very nearly a “sea change†political wave. In fact, while voters are turning on Obama, the National Republican Party remains in such disarray that they cannot take this opportunity to convince voters that the issue is a policy issue and not a failed management issue.
You've written up a very sensible post here.... its always a novelty to me to find the occasional crumb of common sense in the political forum!
I'm not getting overly confident. The democrats were successful in lighting the fires of the ignorant who actually bought into HOPE & CHANGE. For some all it took was an Obamaphone.
they had better get their freakin' act together, find some decent candidates for 2016, quit sayin' stupid, and come up a one page plan filled with details to fix the things that need fixing. If they don't do that, then they're screwed in 2016. And so are we.
Yep. People seem to forget that the pendulum swings *both* ways.
After two more years of government by tantrum, the people will be sick of the GOP.
Last edited by Ibginnie; 10-28-2014 at 12:25 PM..
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We're being set up just like we were 6 years ago and 14 years ago. They say what the polls are, then the outcomes are what they want with strange shifts in voting nobody foresaw. Apparently they want the GOP to win this time around and Obama is following his pre ordained destiny as a flunky stooge who will now be the patsy fall guy to pin all the country's trouble on. But they'll want a stooge again in the White House in 2014 and that is Hillary. But all bases are covered, Jeb and Christie are there just in case. Romney possibly although they'd have a harder time controlling him and would have to pay him more.
Obama isn't just a stooge, he's the biggest phony we've seen ever in politics. He was put in office so he's benefitted from the game and now he's got to take the bad with the good. I doubt he even cares beyond his ego taking a bruising at being ridiculed.
Vote. It matters on the local level but not much higher.
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