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Oh so people should just be defenseless and hope that their number isn't picked? I find that stupid, no offense. That's like not having a fire extinguisher in your house/kitchen because the odds are good that you'll never need it. When you do need it, and don't have it, bad things are going to happen. Same with driving a safe car and wearing a seatbelt, wearing a helmet/leathers on a motorcycle... you don't expect things to go wrong but you prepare for it just in case.
It's funny that some people on here feel less safe around someone who has the ability to protect them then they do around someone who doesn't have that ability. Talk about backwards.
Or expect police to jump to their rescue when none are around. You have to call them to be dispatched first - you could be robbed, raped or dead before the dispatch goes out.
Well if it is a given that personal safety and security is of paramount import so as to cause the wearing of a firearm AND that the chances are probably remote you actually needing a weapon by comparison to you being injured in a vehicle accident why aren't you all driving around in armoured Humvees?
It's a compromise between comfort, gas mileage and safety. I picked a sedan with excellent crash ratings and paid extra for dynamic stability control which has proven very effective in studies (by BMW or Mercedes, I can't remember which) to prevent skidding accidents.
Driving an armored Humvee would be the equivalent of walking around with a Barrett M82.
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In the spirit of preparedness and all, as hypothesized on here ad-infinitum to support carrying. Why does the very remote threat of you actually being attacked assume a greater priority than say, you falling down your basement stairs, but installing an elevator is never mentioned.
A $500 Glock is an affordable "insurance" policy compared to a $25,000 elevator. It's all about compromises.
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Any number of real statistically greater threats to your health and well being exist out there, but for some, it is only the carrying of a firearm to handle the very remote threat that is relevant.
It's not only carrying, you also have to factor in conflict de-escalation as well as situational awareness. I have home owner's insurance against fires but I don't build a bonfire on my back porch. I don't want to have to file a claim. It's a LOT of hassle. Same with a self defense shooting. You don't just talk to the cops for a few minutes and walk away.
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Perhaps it's really all about just the "psyche booster" the wearing of a gun gives the wearer and all of this other stuff is just that, stuff!
Not only wearing but actually training with it. With formal education by certified professionals, I practice weapons manipulation at least twice a week. It's also a change in mindset to follow a strict set of rules. I can NEVER start a fight (not that I have ever done it). I can't even stand up for myself if I am insulted. I have to swallow my pride and walk away because if I escalate anything it can come back on me if it ends up with me discharging my weapon.
The police investigate far more crimes than they thwart. That's their actual job - investigation and bringing in the bad guys. They have no obligation whatsoever to protect you in any way - and if you don't believe that, write the Supreme Court of the United States and tell them that they're wrong.
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You can keep it locked away at home like a responsible gun owner would do.
You think I'm irresponsible for carrying a gun. I think it's irresponsible NOT to carry a gun. The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department and Federal Bureau of Investigation agree with me, not you, as evidenced by the concealed firearm permit in my wallet.
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I know some will argue about tyrannical government or whatever, but this 2014. Unless you're prepared to say that individual civilians should be allowed to have nuclear weapons, the 2nd Amendment is about self defense.
Yeah, hunting is different than walking around in an urban or suburban area carrying a firearm with you, especially if you're carrying it openly. There's really no reason to have it with you when there's little to no danger.
So carrying a gun in the woods is A-OK in your book, but carrying one around town makes no sense?
Answer one question: In what setting - rural or urban - does almost all violent crime take place?
Why can't you take your .38? You can't keep it on your person on the plate, but you can certainly bring it with you when you fly.
Yep, just disclose it before you fly. Might want to be careful what state you're flying into though. Some states have far harsher personal carry laws then others.
It is far more probable to die while driving at high speeds on the highway than to be shot on the las Vegas strip. Yet,I assume you drive on the highway.
And having a gun does not mean you cannot be shot. It is another option for reacting offensively to being attacked. Martial arts also provides options.
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So carrying a gun in the woods is A-OK in your book, but carrying one around town makes no sense?
Most towns no, it doesn't. Maybe in a small town with a small police force which has a slow reaction time, and the town also has a high crime rate, it might make sense.
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Answer one question: In what setting - rural or urban - does almost all violent crime take place?
Not relevant. A firearm is not the only option for self defense for most people. I am reasonably confident in my ability to defend myself in situations which have a reasonable chance of happening.
Most towns no, it doesn't. Maybe in a small town with a small police force which has a slow reaction time, and the town also has a high crime rate, it might make sense.
Not relevant. A firearm is not the only option for self defense for most people. I am reasonably confident in my ability to defend myself in situations which have a reasonable chance of happening.
back when I was living in Wisconsin, at that time Wisconsin did not have ccw but did happen to have open carry. I was one of 22 individuals that showed up to an obama speech while open carrying a Glock-21. in open carry states and even in ccw states, you can carry even if the potus is there.
we were there to make a point, and we made that point. if you have to ask what the point was, then you would never understand it.
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