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It is not a question of morality, but rather one of legality. The US Constitution states that only US citizens 18 years or older are legally allowed to vote. Most States also prohibit convicted felons from voting.
So morality has nothing to do with it. It is the Supreme Law of the Land.
Finally! someone quoted the Constitution!
But, there again, we have a current POTUS that likes to see what he can do to destroy this precious document at whatever the cost...
Had a president of the US 100 years ago done what this (expletive deleted removed) POTUS has done, or has tried to do (or will continue to do) - he would have been dragged out of 1600 with a horse and a rope...
But, there again, we have a current POTUS that likes to see what he can do to destroy this precious document at whatever the cost...
Had a president of the US 100 years ago done what this (expletive deleted removed) POTUS has done, or has tried to do (or will continue to do) - he would have been dragged out of 1600 with a horse and a rope...
Be thankful that the States control the elections, and not the federal government.
For the record, when you went from "some illegals are registered to vote!" to "because Obama is trying to overthrow the Constitution!" you passed the welcome sign to Crazytown.
For the record, when you went from "some illegals are registered to vote!" to "because Obama is trying to overthrow the Constitution!" you passed the welcome sign to Crazytown.
Yes Frank. You are correct. Some conservatives are so addicted to anti Obama rhetoric, that they get totally lost.
But that doesn't explain the liberal (stubborn) stand on voting without ID. Even in those Scandinavian countries we admire, IDs are a norm. The irrational position on this issue clearly belongs to the left.
And if there are no funds for IDs, tax the huge political donations that are otherwise wasted on garbage. (We have a huge bag of leaflets arriving by mail everyday. My wife and I, recycle them even before opening). At least some money could go to a worthy cause.
It basically comes down to being much harder for some people to get IDs than conservatives are willing to publically acknowledge. Privately, the difficulty is the whole point of voter IDs. If everyone who could get one, could get one so easily that it didn't prevent people from voting, Republicans wouldn't be bothering to require them; the whole point of voter IDs is to make it harder for Democrats to vote. GOP members have been recorded saying as much!
Personally, I'm not convinced that the people affected are as Democratic-leaning as Republican politicians seem to think, but that doesn't make it ok.
It basically comes down to being much harder for some people to get IDs than conservatives are willing to publically acknowledge. Privately, the difficulty is the whole point of voter IDs. If everyone who could get one, could get one so easily that it didn't prevent people from voting, Republicans wouldn't be bothering to require them; the whole point of voter IDs is to make it harder for Democrats to vote. GOP members have been recorded saying as much!
Personally, I'm not convinced that the people affected are as Democratic-leaning as Republican politicians seem to think, but that doesn't make it ok.
You couldn't be more wrong and it not hard to get a state issued ID. Where there is a will there is a way.
Yes, this is their new home and elections will now affect them.
do you disagree with any of those two points?
Voting is a great thing, in my opinion anyone 16 years old or older that is a current resident of the USA should be able to vote (yes even criminals). but first lets get rid of the electoral college.
Couldn't disagree more.
These residents (I assume you mean legal residents), are guests of the USA until they earn citizenship.
Citizens convicted of misdemeanors can vote. But felons cannot. I like it that way. Commit a serious crime and lose your right to vote.
There's no provision for "you must be this willing to jump through bureaucratic hoops to vote" in the Constitution.
Oh come now, SCOTUS has decided many, many, many times that reasonable restrictions on our rights are Constitutional. Otherwise there would be NO gun control laws allowed. Besides SCOTUS already decided Voter ID was not an unreasonable burden so I don't know why people are still arguing it.
In a 6-3 decision in 2008, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the photo ID requirement, finding it closely related to Indiana's legitimate state interest in preventing voter fraud, modernizing elections, and safeguarding voter confidence.
Justice John Paul Stevens, in the leading opinion, stated that the burdens placed on voters are limited to a small percentage of the population and were offset by the state's interest in reducing fraud. Stevens wrote in the majority:
"The relevant burdens here are those imposed on eligible voters who lack photo identification cards that comply with SEA 483.[2] Because Indiana's cards are free, the inconvenience of going to the Bureau of Motor Vehicles, gathering required documents, and posing for a photograph does not qualify as a substantial burden on most voters' right to vote, or represent a significant increase over the usual burdens of voting. The severity of the somewhat heavier burden that may be placed on a limited number of persons—e.g., elderly persons born out-of-state, who may have difficulty obtaining a birth certificate—is mitigated by the fact that eligible voters without photo identification may cast provisional ballots that will be counted if they execute the required affidavit at the circuit court clerk’s office. Even assuming that the burden may not be justified as to a few voters, that conclusion is by no means sufficient to establish petitioners’ right to the relief they seek."
There's no provision for "you must be this willing to jump through bureaucratic hoops to vote" in the Constitution.
Well open border policy has now made that necessary.
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