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I haven't seen "thank you for your service" stuff here, maybe I am in California. People here do not care. The pro military folks are normally people who have loved ones served or are currently serving in the military. We have bumper sticker "support our troops" to cheer us up because nobody else really cares. Let me tell you, nobody said ONE thing to my brother when he was in the Marine Corps. They could care less he served or not.
If the store offers a 10% military discount, the store becomes "military worshiper".
Let's all have a reality check please.
When I lived in California, after I got out of the Marine Corps in 1980, I made several trips over the next decade to Oceanside for the express purpose of buying every Marine I encountered a drink (for those who were old enough). We all had a great time, and neither one of us had to thank the other for our service.
I haven't read every post so forgive me if I'm repeating what anyone else said...but I think it's wrong to support the military if they do anything other than self-defense. Obviously politicians are to blame for starting wars, but you're guilty by association if you sign up to take those orders.
Maybe to a degree. And yes it is voluntary enrollment, so yes you do so of your own free will. But if you dangle that carrot and the way the recruiter makes it sound so appealing, I can see why young people are enticed to join. Not to mention events like 9/11 and the fact that we as Americans were enraged about what happened that horrible day and wanted to kick someone's a**, definitely plays into people wanting to sign up.
Maybe to a degree. And yes it is voluntary enrollment, so yes you do so of your own free will. But if you dangle that carrot and the way the recruiter makes it sound so appealing, I can see why young people are enticed to join. Not to mention events like 9/11 and the fact that we as Americans were enraged about what happened that horrible day and wanted to kick someone's a**, definitely plays into people wanting to sign up.
I do agree with that. I also don't think that makes it okay though. It's understandable that they want the benefits the military offers and that they are motivated by anger with terrorists (or whoever) but it doesn't change the fact that being the initiator of violence is wrong. That's my take on it at least.
Don't you think this statement is a bit of hyperbole? Did you even look at the list of politicians and the context in which they were killed?
For instance, one of the people listed was "Joseph Smith". He was the founder of the Mormon church. It is highly unlikely that he was killed for his political beliefs. Another man was killed by Pueblo Indians, and was scalped. I'm not sure if I would consider that a "political assassination". Seems more a military operation to me. A year later, one of the men involved in that scalping(Tomas Romero), was then killed by another man(John Fitzgerald).
Solomon Sharp was killed to protect the honor of a woman who had his illegitimate child. And James Strang was also a founder of the Mormon church and called himself a "King". He was killed by Thomas Bedford who had just been flogged for adultery on Strang's orders.
Cornelius Hamilton was killed by his own son who supposedly had "gone crazy". The guy who supposedly "assassinated" John Slough was found not guilty by a court for reason of "self-defense".
The point is, every "assassination" up until Abraham Lincoln upon closer review would be more accurately described as just plain murder, or the result of military operations. When John Adams and many of the early presidents moved into the White House, it effectively had no guards. Presidents regularly walked the streets of our major cities without concern for their safety.
That is simply unfathomable today. Obama wouldn't have made it a week without his security detail.
Some like to argue that it is just how the world has changed over time. I disagree, I think it is a reflection of the state of our society. And also, a reflection of the politicians themselves. A polarizing politician such as Obama, is far more likely to be shot at.
There is a good reason why Abraham Lincoln was shot. His policies had already killed or imprisoned without habeas corpus, a million American citizens.
And that was my point, and I think you can agree with me. So there is no reason to say something so ridiculous and hyperbolic as "You could not possibly be more incorrect".
I do agree with that. I also don't think that makes it okay though. It's understandable that they want the benefits the military offers and that they are motivated by anger with terrorists (or whoever) but it doesn't change the fact that being the initiator of violence is wrong. That's my take on it at least.
Do you pay taxes? If so, you're buying weapons, paying military contracts, and essentially killing people.
I understand you must act like holly Judge Judy impersonator in order to feel better about yourself, but don't think for a second that you are not part of it. You are part of the system if you are an American citizen. Heck, even if you hold a green card, you are part of it.
Do you pay taxes? If so, you're buying weapons, paying military contracts, and essentially killing people.
I understand you must act like holly Judge Judy impersonator in order to feel better about yourself, but don't think for a second that you are not part of it. You are part of the system if you are an American citizen. Heck, even if you hold a green card, you are part of it.
You make it sound like we have a choice to pay taxes and then have a say on how they are spent lol
I do agree with that. I also don't think that makes it okay though. It's understandable that they want the benefits the military offers and that they are motivated by anger with terrorists (or whoever) but it doesn't change the fact that being the initiator of violence is wrong. That's my take on it at least.
The military doesn't initiate any violence. I didn't support the second iraq war, but the military didn't initiate the violence, that was a President who enjoys a 50+ % approval rate today, and was reelected after losing the popular vote the first time around.
Your issue is with your fellow citizens, but we don't do minority rules.
Do you pay taxes? If so, you're buying weapons, paying military contracts, and essentially killing people.
I understand you must act like holly Judge Judy impersonator in order to feel better about yourself, but don't think for a second that you are not part of it. You are part of the system if you are an American citizen. Heck, even if you hold a green card, you are part of it.
I only pay taxes because I'm forced to. I don't have a choice (and don't say I can move somewhere else, because there is nowhere to escape taxation). I think it's wrong to force anybody to pay anything against their will, but it's especially bad when they're forced to pay for things they find evil.
So really it's more like...they take my money under threat of violence and then use it to do things I would never do myself. I don't consider myself a part of it.
I only pay taxes because I'm forced to. I don't have a choice (and don't say I can move somewhere else, because there is nowhere to escape taxation). I think it's wrong to force anybody to pay anything against their will, but it's especially bad when they're forced to pay for things they find evil.
So really it's more like...they take my money under threat of violence and then use it to do things I would never do myself. I don't consider myself a part of it.
Truth hurts, deal with it.
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That must make your day!
