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Old 10-28-2014, 01:31 PM
 
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I support renewable energy technology but when I read this I just turn off.

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The UCS argues that while a majority of the market is already making the transition into renewables, America needs laws in place that push this growth as fast as possible.
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Old 10-28-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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Why don't we remove all federal subsidy from all energy companies and let the free market decide?
Because the free market is very short sighted. Its all about the now, and not the future.
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Old 10-28-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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Compact Fusion · Lockheed Martin

200 test shots completed. I wish they released more information, but given that its lockheed martin I have high hopes. theres a ton of other startups working the problem from different angles.
It's surpassing the roadblocks the government has in place that defend the coal/petro cronies. There's tons of serious nuclear tech happening in the world, and we are stuck underneath our coal/petro subsidy bloat.
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Old 10-28-2014, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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You mean these guys?

In August 2008, the UCS purchased billboards at the airports in Denver, Colorado and Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota where the Democratic and Republican presidential conventions were to be held. The two nearly identical billboards showed the downtown areas of each convention city in a cross hairs, with the message that “when only one nuclear bomb could destroy a city” like Minneapolis or Denver, “we don’t need 6,000.”
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Old 10-28-2014, 04:24 PM
 
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It's so far from true it's shameful.
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Old 10-28-2014, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Because the free market is very short sighted. Its all about the now, and not the future.
Thats not always a bad thing. Actually, through tax breaks and subsidy, the fossil fuel industry gets more then renewables.
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Old 10-28-2014, 04:30 PM
 
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Because the free market is very short sighted. Its all about the now, and not the future.
While the free market is not "short sighted", government is 100% blind and NEVER GETS ANYTHING RIGHT!
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Old 10-28-2014, 05:09 PM
 
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While the free market is not "short sighted", government is 100% blind and NEVER GETS ANYTHING RIGHT!
The free market is very much about short term results in many cases. It is not optimal for longer term investments of this nature, and government funding does in fact get things right.

While you have this fantasy where you have been told the government is 100% bad, I would argue back that things like the interstate highway system are an excellent example of how you are wrong. Don't blind yourself to reality by repeating a nonsensical mantra.

Now if you said "the government rarely outperforms the free market" I'd agree with you. This is an example I would say is one of the rare ones where the government is performing a function that the free market is not optimal for.
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Old 10-28-2014, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Because the free market is very short sighted. Its all about the now, and not the future.

Let's choose a reason....now is what exists so therefore, now is most important. The future will come but we have none as of now. The USA is in static limbo.
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Old 10-28-2014, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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The richest individuals and most successful companies all take a long-term investment approach.
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