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View Poll Results: which of the following describes you:
I'm liberal, I believe the law of demand generally holds. 5 13.51%
I'm liberal, the law of demand holds with regard to tobacco taxes, but not with regard to the minimum wage. 0 0%
conservative, believe that the law of demand generally holds. 16 43.24%
None of the above. 16 43.24%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-31-2014, 06:51 AM
 
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One of the hallmark characteristics of right-wing perspective is the dumbing down of all issues to insulate themselves from having to deal with the truth that reality is not as clear-cut and as simplistic as their avaricious and self-centered attitudes would wish them to be. For that reason, right-wingers are seemingly incapable of understanding how something they look at with their tunnel-vision fully engaged, i.e., the reality of supply and demand, must be viewed as one of many facets of the situation for which they're attempting to pretend to be intelligent and proactive. They work hard to dodge the fact that these different aspects, especially aspects that are higher in priority than petty concerns such as money, such as human decency and the responsibility of a society to its most vulnerable members, that ruin their egoistic narrative. This is why, incidentally, right-wing perspective favors regressive policy so much. It is a reflection of how that perspective favors the more puerile nature, barbarism, callous disregard for others, self-centeredness, and why it cannot abide the trappings of civilization, such as society, government, the general welfare, etc.
Clearly, your comments are written from the point of a view of a hate-consumed narcissist.
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Old 10-31-2014, 06:53 AM
 
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How about you first explaining how necessities (labor working for businesses) are even remotely comparable to luxuries (cigarettes) in the way they affect supply and demand?

Or did that come after Econ 101?
Because that distinction has absolutely no effect on the laws of supply and demand.
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Old 10-31-2014, 06:55 AM
 
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Similarly, your admission that you couldn't understand that statement condemns your comment more than anything else I could say in response.

Doubling-down on feigned ignorance (I say "feigned" because I know you're all smarter than you're pretending) doesn't help your cause - quite the opposite.
No, I never said I can't guess what you are trying to say with your broken English.

But you claimed what you wrote was clear and concise. Then show it. Explain to us what this means, and explain why.
They work hard to dodge the fact that these different aspects, especially aspects that are higher in priority than petty concerns such as money, such as human decency and the responsibility of a society to its most vulnerable members, that ruin their egoistic narrative.
If it is clear and concise, then it it shouldn't be a hard task for you. Certainly a lot easier, than arguing for why you should not explain what it means.
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Old 10-31-2014, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Life is better with him on ignore.
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Old 10-31-2014, 06:58 AM
 
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In my personal experience....

Most conservatives believe supply and demand is something that should never be questioned....

But what about the popular and often repeated " tax cuts for job creators will create more jobs"????

Seems to go against that theory doesn't it?

If supply and demand is not to be questioned, than tax breaks won't create any hiring....

DEMAND FOR THE PRODUCT/SERVICE DOES.

If you own a business and have enough employees to keep up with the work load than why on earth would you hire more people with your "tax break" when the demand for your products and services hasn't increased?

Supply and demand is 1 factor in economics.....

NOT THE ONLY FACTOR.

The problem with many of the "rock solid" ideologies of many conservatives is that they are often so rigid that they become hypocritical and wind up countering each other.

SIMPLE BLACK AND WHITE SOLUTIONS AND IDEOLOGIES SUCH AS SUPPLY AND DEMAND ARE OFTEN TIMES NOT APPLICABLE TO OUR INCREDIBLY COMPLICATED WORLD.
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:04 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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No, I never said I can't guess what you are trying to say with your broken English.

But you claimed what you wrote was clear and concise. Then show it.
They work hard to dodge the fact that these different aspects, especially aspects that are higher in priority than petty concerns such as money, such as human decency and the responsibility of a society to its most vulnerable members, that ruin their egoistic narrative.
Explain to us what the above means, and why. If it is clear and concise, then it it shouldn't be a hard task for you. Certainly a lot easier, than arguing for why you should not explain what it means.
Basically, s/he thinks the evil "right wingers" try to dodge answering him/her as to why they aren't socialists, as s/he is convinced socialism is "morally superior." Just put into one long run-on sentence with big words.

Hope that helps.
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:09 AM
 
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So first you deny that you are revealing your morality through the perspectives you express, and then you implicitly admit that you do by trying to turn it back on me. And you didn't realize when putting that comment together that you were admitting that you were prevaricating earlier? Wow.

And indeed yes I am revealing my morality through the perspectives I express - I am revealing through the perspectives I express the moral axiom that society is judged on the basis of how it treats its most vulnerable members; and the moral axiom that human decency is a paramount consideration in all humanity's acts. These are moral principles that we all learned in kindergarten or earlier, but clearly some have deliberately decided to ignore and even some have decided to rail against them.

The "strongest" foundation for right-wing corruption is selfishness. The more right-wingers try to defend their claptrap with claims of moral standing the better since the absurdity of such claims are very compelling condemnation of right-wing perspective.

So, in your mind, liberals are moral and conservatives lack morality?

1. How do you explain that conservatives, on the average, give more money to charity?

2. How do you explain that conservatives are more likely to attend church (don't they teach morality)?

3. How do you explain the lower crime rate among republicans vs democrats?
Gun Violence is Not a Republican Problem, It

4. How do you explain higher levels of infidelity among liberals?

http://praguewandering.com/2013/08/2...-conservative/

5. Why do conservatives volunteer more than liberals?

Who's More Charitable - Liberals or Conservatives?


6. Why are most prison inmates democrats?



Gee...................... it seems very confusing. In my experience, liberals TALK about being compassionate and charitable to thier fellow man, but in practice are quite the opposite. The truth hurts.
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:18 AM
 
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Isn't the economy's big problem a lack of high-paying jobs? We should pass a law limiting CEO wages to $100k p.a., then lots more folks will become CEOs and make good money. Or does overly-simplistic, childish understandings of supply and demand only apply to minimum wage workers?
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:20 AM
 
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So first you deny that you are revealing your morality through the perspectives you express, and then you implicitly admit that you do by trying to turn it back on me. And you didn't realize when putting that comment together that you were admitting that you were prevaricating earlier? Wow..
I never denied anything, again, because you say it happened it did not...so sorry to say...but you are wrong...I only stated that you need to look in the mirror, that is not stating that I am denying anything...again, you are wrong...

Amazing, huh...

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And indeed yes I am revealing my morality through the perspectives I express - I am revealing through the perspectives I express the moral axiom that society is judged on the basis of how it treats its most vulnerable members; and the moral axiom that human decency is a paramount consideration in all humanity's acts. These are moral principles that we all learned in kindergarten or earlier, but clearly some have deliberately decided to ignore and even some have decided to rail against them..
LOL...because you say so, does not make it true....lol...so sorry, but agian you are wrong by placing people, as a bunch, into one bowl...because you feel you have a higher morality than everone else, sitting behind that computer, using big words, saying everyone else is wrong, yea....that some big worded morality there...lol


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The "strongest" foundation for right-wing corruption is selfishness. The more right-wingers try to defend their claptrap with claims of moral standing the better since the absurdity of such claims are very compelling condemnation of right-wing perspective.
Yea, you keep pushing the morality stuff, yet support the left...now THAT is very compelling condemnation of your perspective.
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Old 10-31-2014, 07:22 AM
 
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You both forgot, throw in the same group of "big" words over and over, and that's all of their posts... I don't even pay attention to them anymore, way too biased.
Agreed....but I have to pay attention to people such as buu....I have to get my daily laugh, then sit back and think, DAMN, I'm glad I don't have to hide behind big words to MAKE people think I'm better than them....

There is that damn morality thing buu keeps talking about....
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