Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 01-18-2008, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
14,044 posts, read 27,101,372 times
Reputation: 7373

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by SBurgess View Post
Could the US ever become the WW2 era manufacturing (not the war, the manufacturing) machine again?
Partially, I think the decline in the dollar should be a long term benefit towards bringing some production, or retaining production, in the USA. To some degree the emphasis will continue to be on automation of production, and I think the US can be a major designer and producer of robotics.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-18-2008, 09:56 PM
 
19,198 posts, read 31,366,503 times
Reputation: 4013
Quote:
Originally Posted by TriMT7 View Post
And amazingly, there exists alternative viewpoints to your popular, yet not universally accepted perceptions surrounding the event:
There will always be those with a need to rewrite history. Maybe these examples have a Myth of Orlando Letelier and Ronnie Moffit page as well...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-18-2008, 10:36 PM
 
1,006 posts, read 1,551,005 times
Reputation: 274
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewToCA View Post
Partially, I think the decline in the dollar should be a long term benefit towards bringing some production, or retaining production, in the USA. To some degree the emphasis will continue to be on automation of production, and I think the US can be a major designer and producer of robotics.
Even with the automation, and decine of the dollar, do you think the manufacturing costs in the US could be competitive? Presumably, the quality of certain types of manufactured products and components would be better if automated....but with those extremely low labor costs in other countries....? Any comments?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-18-2008, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
42,618 posts, read 86,565,652 times
Reputation: 36637
Quote:
Originally Posted by crystalblue View Post
remember one thing

one reason large parts of the world arent speaking german or japanese or russian is because of america
...
If Eastern Europe did not start speaking Russian after 40 years of Russian occupation, why do you think they would have suddenly started doing so in the past 20 years? Korea and Manchuria never spoke Japanese after a half a century of occupation. If you honestly believe that people assume the language of an occupying power, I think is is safe to say that your other assumptions have no validity, either.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-19-2008, 05:04 PM
 
17,290 posts, read 29,279,224 times
Reputation: 8690
Quote:
Originally Posted by saganista View Post
There will always be those with a need to rewrite history. Maybe these examples have a Myth of Orlando Letelier and Ronnie Moffit page as well...
Indeed. Except when someone puts forth a "different perspective" from what we're used to, comfortable with, or believe in, they're accused of "revisionist history." It happens no matter what your political persuasion.

Can we attack what they assert vs. the mere fact that they assert at all? THAT is the question.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-19-2008, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
20,170 posts, read 24,225,373 times
Reputation: 15284
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewToCA View Post
Partially, I think the decline in the dollar should be a long term benefit towards bringing some production, or retaining production, in the USA. .
Absolutely. And the benefit of the weak dollar is not limited to production, but also involves services and intellectual property. If we ever get our thirst for imported petroleum under control, the US will experience very robust GNP growth and -- it goes without saying -- a much more favorable balance of trade.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-19-2008, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
14,044 posts, read 27,101,372 times
Reputation: 7373
Quote:
Originally Posted by SBurgess View Post
Even with the automation, and decine of the dollar, do you think the manufacturing costs in the US could be competitive? Presumably, the quality of certain types of manufactured products and components would be better if automated....but with those extremely low labor costs in other countries....? Any comments?
Yes, manufacturing has a wide range of complexities, and I believe we are staged to be very competitive for higher range manufacturing. This is especially true for industries involving significant innovation and change, it is easier to incorporate this into the process in a more educated country vs a lowest cost environment.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-19-2008, 07:05 PM
 
19,198 posts, read 31,366,503 times
Reputation: 4013
Quote:
Originally Posted by TriMT7 View Post
Indeed. Except when someone puts forth a "different perspective" from what we're used to, comfortable with, or believe in, they're accused of "revisionist history." It happens no matter what your political persuasion. Can we attack what they assert vs. the mere fact that they assert at all? THAT is the question.
Sure, maybe all of history is just an agreed upon pack of lies. And maybe even the people who were directly involved in US-Chilean relations in those times had only a limited point of reference, priveleged though it may have been. There are people who deny that the moon landings occurred. There are those who insist that Reagan was illegally bargaining hostages with the Iranians in 1980 before he was even elected. In general, fanstastic claims require strong evidence, and plausible deniability is a weak defense.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-19-2008, 07:28 PM
 
19,198 posts, read 31,366,503 times
Reputation: 4013
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yeledaf View Post
Absolutely. And the benefit of the weak dollar is not limited to production, but also involves services and intellectual property. If we ever get our thirst for imported petroleum under control, the US will experience very robust GNP growth and -- it goes without saying -- a much more favorable balance of trade.
There hasn't been such a thing as GNP since 1993, but otherwise our current trade imbalances aren't necessarily caused as much by terms of trade issues as by the fact that the US does not sell anything that people abroad actually wish to buy. We've been basically selling at rock-bottom, bargain prices almost continuously for the better part of four years, and the fish still aren't biting. Part of this may be attributed to a general feeling of disinclination to deal with the US in the presence of other options due to a global unpopularity with the attitude and policies of George W Bush. In a year and a day, he'll be gone. Maybe after that, repairs to the US image abroad can be begun, and perhaps a once favorable attitude toward dealing with the US can be restored in some degree...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-19-2008, 07:37 PM
 
19,198 posts, read 31,366,503 times
Reputation: 4013
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewToCA View Post
Yes, manufacturing has a wide range of complexities, and I believe we are staged to be very competitive for higher range manufacturing. This is especially true for industries involving significant innovation and change, it is easier to incorporate this into the process in a more educated country vs a lowest cost environment.
This I'd agree with. We're basically about out of existing techonologies in which we can successfully (i.e., favorably) compete. We will need to invent our way into new comparative advantages, producing new things that other people want that (for a while at least) can be reliably obtained only in the US. As you say, we have the base infrastructure to accomplish such things. We just need the energy, creativity, and perhaps the federal funding, needed to go after them...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top