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Old 11-03-2014, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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This article brings up a solid point - Democrats failed to hold Obama accountable for anything. His administration had negligible criticism at best from his own party so he never had to fulfill a promise that was easy to fulfill, never had to be a straight shooter, etc...and the result is that Obama is a failure. America should hold the Democrats accountable for refusing to hold Obama accountable.

Obama always pointing the finger of blame at someone else | New York Post



There is always an excuse.

There is always someone else to blame.


Obama could lie about the circumstances of his own mother's death for political points, get caught in the lie, and continue telling the lie, because he knew Democrats would tolerate blatant lies from him.

‘The Road We’ve Traveled:’ A misleading account of Obama’s mother and her insurance dispute - The Washington Post


Obama could make easy to fulfill promises that he broke on his very first opportunity, because he knew Democrats would look the other way as he continued to break it most of the time.

The Obameter: Allow five days of public comment before signing bills | PolitiFact


Obama has become so enabled by Democrats he can pretend he doesn't know anything...there are several additions one could add to this WaPo article:

What Obama didn



Of the laundry list that Democrats complained about Bush, Obama campaigned against them and then usually out did Bush on.

-More Trickle Down policy than Reagan.

-More Continuing Resolutions than Bush.

-More earmarks than Bush.

-More lobbyists in the WH than Bush.

-More special access for big donors than Bush.

-More drones than Bush.

-More Afghanistan War than Bush.

-More TARP than Bush.

-More no-bid contracts than Bush.

-More no-bid contracts to Halliburton than Bush.

-More opaqueness than Bush.

-More gun running than Bush.

-More IRS scandals than Bush.

-More countries bombed than Bush.

-More countries with military operations in than Bush.

-More foreign military bases created in non-combat areas than Bush.

-Continued Bush's Patriot Act.

-Continued Bush's tax cuts even for wealthy fr a few years.

-Continued Bush's national debt explosion.

ETC.....


St. Pete for Peace - Obama fact sheet

Here are 884 well sourced examples of Obama’s lying, lawbreaking, corruption, cronyism, hypocrisy, waste, etc. | Dan from Squirrel Hill's Blog


Any party that enables such lies, easy to fulfill broken promises, and etc... from its leader deserves to go down hard in the elections, whether it be Republican, Democrat, or 3rd Party. Obama's party deserves to go down for refusing to make Obama accountable to his word, the country, and the Constitution.
I know you guys plan some big payback when you get hold of some power, but how far are you willing to go?
What do you suggest?
Line em up and shoot them like ISIS?
Hang em from the nearest tree like they did in the South?
Perhaps just make them and all their relatives disappear like they do in North Korea?
There's always the "Dull knife to the neck" routine. That always draws a crowd.
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Old 11-04-2014, 04:28 AM
 
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I know you guys plan some big payback when you get hold of some power, but how far are you willing to go?
What do you suggest?
Line em up and shoot them like ISIS?
Hang em from the nearest tree like they did in the South?
Perhaps just make them and all their relatives disappear like they do in North Korea?
There's always the "Dull knife to the neck" routine. That always draws a crowd.
So I list out dozens of facts of how Obama has lied, out Bushed Bush on issues Democrats hated Bush for, etc...

And all you can do is ignore reality, ignore facts, and play the race card? You have a really weak hand...perhaps you should think long and hard about why your best response is BS.
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:34 AM
 
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So basically this is the same as 2006 when the shoe was on the other foot.
Uh, no, it isn't basically like that at all.

Bush did not blame Clinton for everything that was wrong in the country.
Bush did not introduce legislation and then blame the other party when it passed like Obama did with sequestration.
Bush did not slam his opponent's policies and then enact those very same policies once he got elected.
Bush did not promise to have no lobbyists in his administration and then immediately write waivers to let lobbyists serve in his administration.
Bush did not blame a terrorist attack on a youtube video and then have that video's maker thrown in jail for a year.
Bush did not send guns to Mexican drug cartels and then falsely claim the previous administration was responsible for it.
Bush did not have the first credit rating downgrade in history happen on his watch and then blame it on a citizens' political movement the way Obama did with the "Tea Party downgrade"
Bush did not say he would have the most transparent administration in history and then shut reporters out of the White House.
Bush did not hold a meeting with the opposing party to hear their ideas and then claim "elections have consequences" and ignore everything they had to say, then announce they'd never had any ideas the way Obama did with Republican healthcare reform proposals.
Bush did not try to use Medicare funds for another program and falsely double-count those funds the way Obama did with cutting Medicare to pay for Obamacare.

Bush was not even in the same galaxy as Obama when it comes to dishonesty. Obama has been the most dishonest President we've ever had.
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Although to be honest Bush2 was actually more productive than Obama and thus did more damage. Obama is mainly reacting to reality instead of anticipating it - or heaven forbid simply planning ahead for various contingencies.
Yes, Obama is a Democrat. Not planning ahead is characteristic of Democrats. It's what happens when you think with your emotions instead of with your intellect. Democrats have a long history of unintended consequences.

You start the War on Poverty and end up with trillions in debt with the poverty rate unchanged. You set up social welfare programs to help the poor and end up with an unemployable multigenerational poverty stricken underclass. You raise taxes and regulations on businesses and end up with tens of thousands of jobs being offshored to other countries. You raise taxes on the rich and end up killing investment and generating less revenue as the wealthy park their money overseas. You set up public sector unions and end up with declining education as merit pay for good teachers and dismissal of poor teachers both become impossible due to the teacher unions. You shut down domestic energy production to save the environment and end up so dependent on oil produced in the Middle East that you can't untangle yourself from Middle East wars.

As bad as he is, Obama is by no means unique in the area of not planning ahead for various contingencies. That is endemic to liberals. It's an unavoidable problem when your philosophy revolves around revising history so you don't learn from it, blaming all failures on your political opponents so you don't learn from them, and assuming that centralized bureaucracies will act in the best interests of the nation.
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The sad part is that we are filling the US House and Senate with some loons during these wave elections. Or some specifically- Republican loons and some mentally challenged Democrats. Either way it simply keeps getting worse. But Boy Howdy will the Ayottes, Kirks and Toomeys be sweating it out as every Tea Party fueled bill wing its way to the Senate where they will be forced to vote the party line in DC and try to explain it back home.
The Tea Party being loony is just part of what I just mentioned - liberal refusal to look at reality. The Tea Party in reality simply wants limited government and fiscal responsibility. The liberals have spent so many years trying to marginalize the Tea Party that it has entered public consciousness that they are extremist whackos. But if you actually look at the platforms and manifestos of Tea Party organizations rather than getting your information from their opponents, you will see nothing extreme, racist, anarchist, etc about them.
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