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most of the time it makes more sense for the mom to stay home if she doesnt have a really good paying job because the paycheck goes straight to daycare
so esentially your only working to pay daycare so that you are able to go to work so you can pay daycare
True but it's only for a handful years as the amount spent on care drops dramatically once the child is in school. If mom chooses to stay in the workforce for those years and take a hit to her income she will still benefit from not losing time in the workforce which for many leads to promotions and raises. She may even have good benefits. If she chooses to stay home then she is not only sacrificing her income but future career advancement opportunities, less money in her 401K and possibly, having to buy her own health insurance. Most women who are faced with this dilemma will consider all of these factors and look at the bigger picture rather then just the here and now and ultimately choose the path that makes the most sense for them. For some it's to stay in the workforce and for others it to stay home.
The point being that it's not a long term problem and it is still a choice. Also, those who are fortunate enough to be able to choose do have enough income to cover the bills. The families who are fortunate to have this choice do not need the government to subsidize their child's care. While it may not be ideal, they can afford it. They have a choice. Many do not have that choice. The President's comment in that regard makes zero sense.
True but it's only for a handful years as the amount spent on care drops dramatically once the child is in school. If mom chooses to stay in the workforce for those years and take a hit to her income she will still benefit from not losing time in the workforce which for many leads to promotions and raises. She may even have good benefits. If she chooses to stay home then she is not only sacrificing her income but future career advancement opportunities, less money in her 401K and possibly, having to buy her own health insurance. Most women who are faced with this dilemma will consider all of these factors and look at the bigger picture rather then just the here and now and ultimately choose the path that makes the most sense for them. For some it's to stay in the workforce and for others it to stay home.
The point being that it's not a long term problem and it is still a choice. Also, those who are fortunate enough to be able to choose do have enough income to cover the bills. The families who are fortunate to have this choice do not need the government to subsidize their child's care. While it may not be ideal, they can afford it. They have a choice. Many do not have that choice. The President's comment in that regard makes zero sense.
my comment was on daycare in general... and no relation to the president speech
i dont think people should be paid for taking care of their own children
anyways something in that speech didnt even sound right to me, sounded similar to the line about a "a woman shouldnt be punished with a baby"
Just wait until the minimum wage is $15 and watch what happens. This is a preemptive strike by obama and the democrats because they know what happens if they raise the minimum wage. It's all calculated.
Daycare workers make $9. It's an industry that is labor intensive and sensitive to labor costs. A $6 increase to $15 would ripple further when it's almost a certainty that the woman currently making $15 and paying daycare won't get a raise. Small daycare providers will vanish as large facilities open to capitalize on economies of scale. The illegal centers will flourish also - the mom who watches a couple of kids at home for less than minimum wage but isn't licesned or insured.
And your liberals will be there to open pre-pre-pre-pre-K "schools" with extended hours and subsidies for all. Get to work women! Only rich white women can raise their kids.
I think Obama stated his case very poorly. For someone who was once a law mag editor, he does garble his thoughts at times.
It's almost like he doesn't know how to communicate without a written speech.
He's been trained to say what is on the paper in front of him and does not do well when he goes offline.
Hillary did this last week with her Business and Jobs remarks.
Just wait until the minimum wage is $15 and watch what happens. This is a preemptive strike by obama and the democrats because they know what happens if they raise the minimum wage. It's all calculated.
Daycare workers make $9. It's an industry that is labor intensive and sensitive to labor costs. A $6 increase to $15 would ripple further when it's almost a certainty that the woman currently making $15 and paying daycare won't get a raise. Small daycare providers will vanish as large facilities open to capitalize on economies of scale. The illegal centers will flourish also - the mom who watches a couple of kids at home for less than minimum wage but isn't licesned or insured.
And your liberals will be there to open pre-pre-pre-pre-K "schools" with extended hours and subsidies for all. Get to work women! Only rich white women can raise their kids.
I don't know what your point is about day care pay, but my daughter made more than that at a day care five years ago.
Y'know, there is always one option: IF one cannot afford to have children, DO NOT HAVE THEM!
Birth control is readily available, and generally there is at least one type that is not very expensive. If birth control is too expensive, there is always abstention.
Having children is a life-changing thing. One must be aware of just what is going to happen to their life when that baby is born.
Yes, I DO know all about it. I been there, did that, 6 times! There was no such thing as a "day care center" back then. We did, however, have babysitters.
We were also eligible, and accepted, "commodities". I'm sure many will remember them; 5 pound bricks of cheese, boxes of powdered milk, and corn meal. LOTS of corn meal.
True but it's only for a handful years as the amount spent on care drops dramatically once the child is in school. If mom chooses to stay in the workforce for those years and take a hit to her income she will still benefit from not losing time in the workforce which for many leads to promotions and raises. She may even have good benefits. If she chooses to stay home then she is not only sacrificing her income but future career advancement opportunities, less money in her 401K and possibly, having to buy her own health insurance. Most women who are faced with this dilemma will consider all of these factors and look at the bigger picture rather then just the here and now and ultimately choose the path that makes the most sense for them. For some it's to stay in the workforce and for others it to stay home.
The point being that it's not a long term problem and it is still a choice. Also, those who are fortunate enough to be able to choose do have enough income to cover the bills. The families who are fortunate to have this choice do not need the government to subsidize their child's care. While it may not be ideal, they can afford it. They have a choice. Many do not have that choice. The President's comment in that regard makes zero sense.
After-school programs are not cheap. Dramatically?
I don't know what your point is about day care pay, but my daughter made more than that at a day care five years ago.
"According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there were 324,700 childcare workers employed in the day care services industry as of September 2013. These workers earned an average hourly wage of $9.08. This hourly pay rate translates to an average annual wage of $19,560. The median hourly pay rate hourly rate is $9.02, which means half earn more and half earn less. The standard deviation of the rates indicates little upward or downward variation from the average and the median."
"Public school employees acting or employed in a dual-role capacity are not considered daycare workers but teachers assistants or aides. Their salaries were higher averaging $11.94, or about $24,000 per year, with the added benefits typical of most public school employees."
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