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Old 11-04-2014, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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I'll believe it when I see it. In Maine you have the Tea Party Republican incumbent in a 1 point race with the Democratic challenger and a left leaning Independent polling at 13%. If anything that tells me that the Democrats in Maine have moved too far to the right and are losing their base voters.

In Massachusetts you have "a pro-choice, pro same-sex marriage Republican nominee." At that point fiscal issues move to the front. This is where Republicans should have an advantage although history hasn't shown Republican administrations to be any better at balancing budgets than Democratic ones.

New Hampshire is an interesting case where you have an incumbent that could lose to a carpetbagger who has publically stated that he doesn't know much about the state outside of Manchester. That tells me that Shaheen must be absolutely terrible at her job.

In truly purple Pennsylvania you have a tea party influenced governor who despite running his administration exactly as he promised in the campaign is getting trounced by a business minded Democrat that is openly talking about tax increases. That tells me that people like the idea of tax cuts and "pro-business" (ie. cronyism) governance... until it actually happens and they have to live with the consequences.

All that said, I'd love for a leftward shift in the Republican Party where social issues were no longer the rallying cry and both parties had to run on fiscal, environmental and quality of life platforms. But good luck getting that south of Massachusetts.
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:09 AM
 
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It's too bad Astorino doesn't have a prayer in unseating Cuomo.

God I HATE that POS
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I'll believe it when I see it. In Maine you have the Tea Party Republican incumbent in a 1 point race with the Democratic challenger and a left leaning Independent polling at 13%. If anything that tells me that the Democrats in Maine have moved too far to the right and are losing their base voters.

In Massachusetts you have "a pro-choice, pro same-sex marriage Republican nominee." At that point fiscal issues move to the front. This is where Republicans should have an advantage although history hasn't shown Republican administrations to be any better at balancing budgets than Democratic ones.

New Hampshire is an interesting case where you have an incumbent that could lose to a carpetbagger who has publically stated that he doesn't know much about the state outside of Manchester. That tells me that Shaheen must be absolutely terrible at her job.

In truly purple Pennsylvania you have a tea party influenced governor who despite running his administration exactly as he promised in the campaign is getting trounced by a business minded Democrat that is openly talking about tax increases. That tells me that people like the idea of tax cuts and "pro-business" (ie. cronyism) governance... until it actually happens and they have to live with the consequences.

All that said, I'd love for a leftward shift in the Republican Party where social issues were no longer the rallying cry and both parties had to run on fiscal, environmental and quality of life platforms. But good luck getting that south of Massachusetts.
Moderate, non-religious approaches to social issues is what the party should be.
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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It's too bad Astorino doesn't have a prayer in unseating Cuomo.

God I HATE that POS

Cuomo was pretty much untouchable. If the GOP ever wants to win statewide again, they need to let go of the social conservatives. A Pataki type can win statewide (though it would stilol be difficult), an Astorino type wouldn't have a chance in hell even if it wasn't Cuomo.
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:32 AM
 
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Cuomo was pretty much untouchable. If the GOP ever wants to win statewide again, they need to let go of the social conservatives. A Pataki type can win statewide (though it would stilol be difficult), an Astorino type wouldn't have a chance in hell even if it wasn't Cuomo.
but it would have been so awesome to see the look on Cuomo's ugly face when NYers told him what they thought about PSE&G, NY Rising and the UNsafe act. Oh - and the speed cameras, they were his idea.
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Old 11-04-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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but it would have been so awesome to see the look on Cuomo's ugly face when NYers told him what they thought about PSE&G, NY Rising and the UNsafe act. Oh - and the speed cameras, they were his idea.

PSE&G while has its problems is far better than the LIPA cluster****. The Safe Act will get him votes, not cost votes. The speed cameras as a whole statewide haven't been much of an issue, it has however been implemented very poorly in Nassau County.
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Old 11-04-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Moderate, non-religious approaches to social issues is what the party should be.
Agreed, but a good bit of the party are still social grassroots folks. They must be accommodated to a point.
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Old 11-04-2014, 01:27 PM
 
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Moderate, non-religious approaches to social issues is what the party should be.
Then what differantites them from pro-business Democrats? Unles Democrates suddenly take a take sharp turn left you'll end up with debates over the names of candidates yachts.
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Old 11-04-2014, 01:28 PM
 
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People are saying that Democrats are not the Democrats of the old days, republicans have become the party of the middle class. Democrats are the class of the rich.
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