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Old 11-13-2014, 01:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by T-310 View Post
It has been posted before. Temps go up and then down showing a baseline of 0.
He knows that NOOA, NASA and the UK's Met Ofice have all provided reports stating that there has been a net zero in warming. It's those government agencies who we are quoting when we say there has been a "pause" in warming for 18 years. , He's just trying to play ignorant because it's better than admitting the truth.

Some people are just invested in this at a personal level. They bought the man-made global warming shtick, hook, line, and sinker, and they ridiculed all of us, and now they cannot admit they were wrong, becuase they feel it will tarnish their personal reputations, and bruise their inflated egos.

 
Old 11-13-2014, 01:28 PM
 
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That 95 page power point is published btw.

Do you deny it's accuracy? Dr Maue's credentials here:
policlimate.com | Dr. Ryan Maue's Global Tropical Cyclone Activity Update

I can't help that he points out the obvious problems renewable resources have.

Do you even know what your chart is showing? It isn't showing whether or not the models are accurate, they are demonstrating that the models "need" additional forcing to account for the temperature change.

Irregardless, I never claimed that co2 won't induce warming. I only point out that the models continue to overshoot the warming when compared to observations.

Climate change: The forecast for 2018 is cloudy with record heat : Nature News & Comment

Greenies need to get over it.... Fact is fossils aren't going away soon. In fact, China plans to use coal for for a long time, reducing poverty is more important than green tokenism

Policies of Scarcity in a Land of Plenty - IER

^^

Well, to be fair, China's coal consumption does drop by 4% of it's electricity production. Too bad that it's electricity production by 2030 will be three times higher than it is today
Meanwhile, China will receive a clear manufacturing cost advantage over US companies, and over 16 years China will drive out many US competitors. China will own the top spot as a super power, due to Obama's agreement.... if we are stupid enough to allow it to become rattified
 
Old 11-13-2014, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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He knows that NOOA, NASA and the UK's Met Ofice have all provided reports stating that there has been a net zero in warming.
No, it's just increasing more slowly. This has been explained but it contradicts the Republican talking point and is therefore ignored.

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They bought the man-made global warming shtick, hook, line, and sinker, and they ridiculed all of us
You really shouldn't use the past tense. However, you should support your claims with facts. Please do so.
 
Old 11-13-2014, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Wow....Such credible sources you have...Power point presentations, blogs and twitter comments.....

Examine the chart of models vs observed changes on the page I presented..... Can you still say that models are inaccurate?
The can say all sorts of wacky things. Global warming can't be real because Jesus, waterboarding isn't torture, God will punish them if they stop treating homosexuals as second-class citizens. The list of things they CAN say is endless. The list of true things they DO say is less so.
 
Old 11-13-2014, 05:13 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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He knows that NOOA, NASA and the UK's Met Ofice have all provided reports stating that there has been a net zero in warming. It's those government agencies who we are quoting when we say there has been a "pause" in warming for 18 years. , He's just trying to play ignorant because it's better than admitting the truth.

Some people are just invested in this at a personal level. They bought the man-made global warming shtick, hook, line, and sinker, and they ridiculed all of us, and now they cannot admit they were wrong, becuase they feel it will tarnish their personal reputations, and bruise their inflated egos.
Bingo. No matter how many doomsday predictions fail to occur, no matter how many "scientists" are caught fudging the data, no matter how many hockey sticks are proven wrong, no matter how many computer models are proven incorrect, no matter how many scientists quit the IPCC after detailing the fraud going on behind the scenes, no matter how clear it is that the AGW agenda is designed to turn billionaires into trillionaires at the expense of the poor & middle class...they will never come around because it'd be too painful to admit they've been had.
 
Old 11-13-2014, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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No one has ever scientifically proven that man is not causing the earth to warm by his use of carbon based fuels.

Never has there been credible science presented that says mankind is not responsible for a rise in global temperatures, which has been most noticeable at the earth's poles, far away from the scientifically illiterate half-wits who bleat conspiracy theories on the internet.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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No one has ever scientifically proven that man is not causing the earth to warm by his use of carbon based fuels.

Never has there been credible science presented that says mankind is not responsible for a rise in global temperatures, which has been most noticeable at the earth's poles, far away from the scientifically illiterate half-wits who bleat conspiracy theories on the internet.
actually NO-ONE..not one scientist has proved that climate change is man-made/man caused

it is historically proven that the climate does change naturally


and that's the whole point...its awfully egotistical for humans to think they are the cause of a natural occurrence...and awfully deceitful for liberals to think a tax will change the path of a natural change
 
Old 11-14-2014, 12:13 PM
 
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No, it's just increasing more slowly. This has been explained but it contradicts the Republican talking point and is therefore ignored.
Wrong, they have not "expalined" the pause, they did not say it has warmed more slowly, they said warming has been "flat" that there has been a "pause" in warming.

The Met Office Hadley Centre::

"July 2013 - Global mean surface temperatures rose rapidly from the 1970s, but have been relatively flat over the most recent 15 years to 2013."

Read their study titled: The recent pause in global warming (2) - Met Office

The second (study) suggests that it is not possible to explain the recent lack of surface warming solely by reductions in the total energy received by the planet, i.e. the balance between the total solar energy entering the system and the thermal energy leaving it. Changes in the exchange of heat between the upper and deep ocean appear to have caused at least part of the pause in surface warming, and observations suggest that the Pacific Ocean may play a key role.

They refer to it as a pause, not as warming, and they admit they are doumb founded as to why, they admit they lack the proper understanfing of how our cliamte functions . They refer to it as a pause, and endeaver to understand "the recent pause in global surface temperature rise."

NOOA and NASA say exactly the same thing. You have been consistently wrong on this, and it's not even worth discussing it with you anymore. I provide you with proof, I give you links or in this case, a pdf file you can search and download for yourself. Time and again you simply refuse to educate yourself, and stick to your talking points, or offer anecdotal evidence or isolated weather events.

Your only hope is that a strong El Nino event forms in 2015, so you can try to blame human produced CO2 for creating an El Nino.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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No one has ever scientifically proven that man is not causing the earth to warm by his use of carbon based fuels.

Never has there been credible science presented that says mankind is not responsible for a rise in global temperatures, which has been most noticeable at the earth's poles, far away from the scientifically illiterate half-wits who bleat conspiracy theories on the internet.
No one has ever scientifically proven that man is causing the earth to warm by his use of carbon based fuels.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Bingo. No matter how many doomsday predictions fail to occur, no matter how many "scientists" are caught fudging the data, no matter how many hockey sticks are proven wrong, no matter how many computer models are proven incorrect, no matter how many scientists quit the IPCC after detailing the fraud going on behind the scenes, no matter how clear it is that the AGW agenda is designed to turn billionaires into trillionaires at the expense of the poor & middle class...they will never come around because it'd be too painful to admit they've been had.
That is the primary agenda. Wealth transfer.
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