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Old 11-11-2014, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Your pop gun cannot stop a government that has access to nuclear weapons.
They're not launching on U.S. soil (for many reasons that shouldn't have to be explained), and if they would do that, then it only proves that those opposing them are in the right.

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A gun is just a tool that is designed to produce harm to an object, nothing more, nothing less.
Close, but no cigar. It's a tool that is designed to launch a projectile. Nothing more; nothing less. Whether or not harm is caused would be up to the person pulling the trigger.
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Old 11-11-2014, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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... they are designed to cause harm.


Is a knife "designed to cause harm"? What kind of harm is being caused by Wolfgang Puck as he prepares a meal?
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yes, more laws.....yet, people drive daily, uninsured, you register your car only if you want to drive it on the road...many cars never get registered....especially on a farm....you are supposed to follow the law...yet people continue to get tickets for disobeying the law....

Great regulation...which, to people such as you means more laws....

Oh and lets not forget your buddy ole joe.....he stated they don't have time to prosecute people when they lie on he 4473.....so yea...more laws.....
You're so right, we should have no driving laws whatsoever.

You anti-law guys are too funny, we should have no murder laws too while we are at it because people still murder even though it is illegal.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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They're not launching on U.S. soil (for many reasons that shouldn't have to be explained), and if they would do that, then it only proves that those opposing them are in the right.


Close, but no cigar. It's a tool that is designed to launch a projectile. Nothing more; nothing less. Whether or not harm is caused would be up to the person pulling the trigger.
That is true, though the projectile would cause harm to whatever it is hitting, but that is just a technicality.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:43 PM
 
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You're so right, we should have no driving laws whatsoever.

You anti-law guys are too funny, we should have no murder laws too while we are at it because people still murder even though it is illegal.
Murdering people with guns is already illegal, in case you didn't know.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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we should have no murder laws too while we are at it because people still murder even though it is illegal.
Yes, they do, and they use many types of weapons, including their bare hands.

That is why banning guns because they can be used to kill maliciously is a non-starter because the will to kill doesn't come from the weapon, but from the mind of the person using it.

By your logic we should chop off everyone's hands at birth because some people use those tools to strangle others; and if you believe that there are no negative uses for hands, then by your own definition you are a "hand worshipper".
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Murdering people with guns is already illegal, in case you didn't know.
Yet people still do it, that was the point the other member was making about driving. I am not against laws, I think laws are an important thing in a society.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Yes, they do, and they use many types of weapons, including their bare hands.

That is why banning guns because they can be used to kill maliciously is a non-starter because the will to kill doesn't come from the weapon, but from the mind of the person using it.

By your logic we should chop off everyone's hands at birth because some people use those tools to strangle others.
Ah yes, you are assuming I want to ban guns, you would be incorrect.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:56 PM
 
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That is true, though the projectile would cause harm to whatever it is hitting, but that is just a technicality.
In the case of a paper target, the object being hit is designed to be harmed.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:01 PM
 
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Ah yes, you are assuming I want to ban guns, you would be incorrect.
It isn't surprising that you would deny it, because that is a common tactic of the anti-gun left. Whether you knowingly wish to ban guns or not is irrelevant, because the effect of your regulation desires will cause guns to be banned in the long run.

There is a good reason why the 2A states that "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", because one little infringement will lead to the eventual ban of gun ownership.

The founders knew that people such as yourself, who either are sneaky tricksters or willing sycophants of the gun control leadership, would try to dismantle that essential right, and that is why the 2nd Amendment was placed in the U.S. Constitution and worded as strongly as it was.
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