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Old 11-14-2014, 04:25 AM
 
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It's been proven that the American people have been lied to and Dems gave Obama a pass. Gruber calls Americans stupid and Dems try to pass it off.

If that's not STUPID, what is. These people are pathetic.
Whats even dumber is those they called stupid, dont even seem to be upset over being played and lied to.. They stand here going "Thats ok"...

 
Old 11-14-2014, 04:34 AM
 
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Maybe she also thinks her base is "stupid" enough to believe her.
her base continues to re-elect her despite her lying to them all the time..

I'd say her thoughts about her base might actually be true.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 05:07 AM
 
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It's been proven that the American people have been lied to and Dems gave Obama a pass. Gruber calls Americans stupid and Dems try to pass it off.

If that's not STUPID, what is. These people are pathetic.
And they are trying to spin the crap out of it....that's not what he said....LOL....

The best spin yet, is the spin that he said the American voters voted the ACA in, not congress....
 
Old 11-14-2014, 05:12 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Gotta love the ingorance of the left....

But don't worry, how does itfeel to be called stupid...lefties....you wanted it, you got it...


Obamacare | Gruber | video | stupid voters | transparency


The video and transcript...


Let the spins begin....
Many leftists probably don't even know what this is about, because only Fox has covered this. The MSM has completely ignored the story, leaving the leftists uninformed, as usual.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 05:15 AM
 
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And they are trying to spin the crap out of it....that's not what he said....LOL....

The best spin yet, is the spin that he said the American voters voted the ACA in, not congress....
Did you hear the first spin they tried

"He shouldnt have said that"..

Not that what he said was wrong, but just that he shouldnt have told everyone the truth..
 
Old 11-14-2014, 05:16 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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There is no way to spin this. The words are there. The cynical, deceptive, lying way that the bill was worded and the complete disgust for the American people is all there in less than one minute of video.

I hope people take the time to absorb what this video means. And then remember it in two years.
This video, and the others that followed.

Pelosi famously stated that she doesn't know who this person is, even though she made reference to him in the past when proclaiming the benefits of the "ACA," and how wonderful it was going to be.

The man also visited the White House 13 times to discuss the ACA with the President, it has been reported.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 05:23 AM
 
Location: US
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Here's a recent article in the Wall Street Journal from a Democrat who is speaking the truth.

Burke Beu: This Democrat Is Giving Up on ObamaCare - WSJ - WSJ

"ObamaCare is a failure. For anyone who thinks this is a misprint because no Democratic activist would make such a comment, let me add that it is too big, too complicated and too expensive. Without a public option within its network of exchanges, ObamaCare is a giant blank check to the insurance companies that pushed it through Congress. It punishes responsible consumers like me and treats younger individuals as fools who are expected to pay the bills while not paying attention."

Romneycare, is for a particular state and is successful. The people are happy with their coverage, the premiums average $200 a month, as opposed to thousands of dollars for no coverage, and Romney's vetos of the extras input by his Democrat congress were overriden by the congress. The congress wanted employer mandates and Romney did not, for example. Romney vetoed it, along with about seven other items, but he was overriden.

I am actually glad this happened with Gruber. Now we know the agenda -- deceive to achieve --- and American citizens can demand better from this and future administrations.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 05:32 AM
 
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Romneycare, is for a particular state and is successful. The people are happy with their coverage, the premiums average $200 a month, as opposed to thousands of dollars for no coverage, and Romney's vetos of the extras input by his Democrat congress were overriden by the congress. The congress wanted employer mandates and Romney did not, for example. Romney vetoed it, along with about seven other items, but he was overriden.
Exactly, the Democrats ran around and lied again, stating Romneycare and Obamacare was the same thing.

They arent.

Romneycare offered tax incentives to get insurance
Obamacare offers penalties not to.

To sell Obamacare to the public, they ran around saying that people who bought insurance was being subsidized by the taxpayer because they dont pay taxes on that income, while at the same time, applauding the very same tax credits used to give Romneycare recipiants insurance.

They flip flopped every dam second and lied to the public, so I'm surprised they still have any support among those not getting welfare from it.. (cough, subsidies)
 
Old 11-14-2014, 05:51 AM
 
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You are certainly right about knowing the agenda. The Dims are just providing the 'proofs'.
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Here's a recent article in the Wall Street Journal from a Democrat who is speaking the truth.

Burke Beu: This Democrat Is Giving Up on ObamaCare - WSJ - WSJ

"ObamaCare is a failure. For anyone who thinks this is a misprint because no Democratic activist would make such a comment, let me add that it is too big, too complicated and too expensive. Without a public option within its network of exchanges, ObamaCare is a giant blank check to the insurance companies that pushed it through Congress. It punishes responsible consumers like me and treats younger individuals as fools who are expected to pay the bills while not paying attention."

Romneycare, is for a particular state and is successful. The people are happy with their coverage, the premiums average $200 a month, as opposed to thousands of dollars for no coverage, and Romney's vetos of the extras input by his Democrat congress were overriden by the congress. The congress wanted employer mandates and Romney did not, for example. Romney vetoed it, along with about seven other items, but he was overriden.

I am actually glad this happened with Gruber. Now we know the agenda -- deceive to achieve --- and American citizens can demand better from this and future administrations.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 05:57 AM
 
Location: DFW
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I'll be called crazy but.............

Gruber should be fearful for his life. A big mouth needs to be shut.
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