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Old 11-09-2014, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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No no no. Actually, they don't. Most voters voted for Obama. This happened twice.
Yes, the kind of voters who think founding father George Jefferson wouldn't be proud. Those voters clearly stayed home last week.

 
Old 11-09-2014, 08:43 AM
 
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Immigration
Balance Budget
Spending (18t)
corruption of and abuse of Gov. IRS ,F & F ,ect
Foreign Policy, Lead from Behind
Obama Care

Just to name a few
-Immigration - Obama has made it public he is holding off on immigration so that Congress can legislate it appropriately, which they haven't.

-Balance budget / Spending - Impossible for any administration. Balanced budgets are bad for the economy, due to modern money theory. They are simply bad economics. Here is the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities' stance on a Balanced Budget Amendment (hint, it will NEVER exist)

-Corruption is hardly limited to this Administration. It needs to be proven through impeachment proceedings.

-I already posted that our Foreign Policy is viewed more favorably than the previous administration.

-Obamacare has lowered the amount of uninsured in this country.


Back to the drawing board. Try to come up with correct answers instead of talking points.
 
Old 11-09-2014, 08:45 AM
 
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No no no. Actually, they don't. Most voters voted for Obama. This happened twice.


Yes and since the last time more disappointed with him have moved into that dislike column.
How did you not notice?
 
Old 11-09-2014, 08:48 AM
 
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Shrug. He failed to close quantonumo bay for example, Implemented obamacare instead of single payer, he failed to put someone in place that would actually prosecute bank executives that committed crimes.

Thats off the top of my head mind you.




Could this be another reason?



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I don't tolerate people who lie and misrepresent, if that makes me not very tolerant...well so be it.
 
Old 11-09-2014, 08:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated View Post
-Immigration - Obama has made it public he is holding off on immigration so that Congress can legislate it appropriately, which they haven't.

-Balance budget / Spending - Impossible for any administration. Balanced budgets are bad for the economy, due to modern money theory. They are simply bad economics. Here is the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities' stance on a Balanced Budget Amendment (hint, it will NEVER exist)

-Corruption is hardly limited to this Administration. It needs to be proven through impeachment proceedings.

-I already posted that our Foreign Policy is viewed more favorably than the previous administration.

-Obamacare has lowered the amount of uninsured in this country.


Back to the drawing board. Try to come up with correct answers instead of talking points.
The POINT is that these criticisms are not the result of race anymore than the criticisms of GWB were because people didn't like politicians from Texas.

You can defend his criticisms all you like, ALL presidents have had them. What you can't seem to do is defend the allegations that they stem from race.
 
Old 11-09-2014, 08:54 AM
 
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your not living in the real world

posting those same old tired videos with "tea-bagger" in the title is not proof of anything

real worlders dont get up in the morning with a personal mission to defend the president at all costs if someone says something you deem negative about him

at least get paid for it.

when hillary gets elected are you gonna show the same enthusiasm you are showing now.
 
Old 11-09-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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Fed up with lies? You weren't fed up with lies when Bush rammed the Patriot Act through and stripped your liberties. Where was the anger there? Why the double standard?



Yet you hold no anger at Obama extending and intensifying that same Patriot Act, NSA in your daily life?

Test is over, you are blind.
There is nothing more that can be done for you.
 
Old 11-09-2014, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Your argument is that somehow Obama is disrespecting the office of President. Please, do elaborate.
IMO it's not so much that he disrespects the presidency, it's that he disrespects the Congress and the Constitution.

When my state (WA) legalized pot, he cut a deal with our governor to turn a blind eye to federal law. Even if you favor legalization, the president should have gone through the Congress to modify legislation to allow this new scenario.

When a provision in the ACA proved to be problematic, he decided just to ignore it instead of going back to Congress to get it changed.
SCOTUS To Hear New Obamacare Challenge - Matt Vespa

And his own two SCOTUS appointees slapped him down when he tried to end run Congress to abuse recess appointments.
Justices rule for Congress in recess appointments fight - CNN.com
 
Old 11-09-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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Feel free to list the policies you have an issue with. I've been waiting for 6 years to hear all these flawed policies.
Oh let's see....

-Promises of transparency despite being one of the least transparent administrations ever

Flashback: Obama: Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency. - YouTube

-Promises of limiting or ending the Patriot Act and government spying and not only continuing it but presiding over one of the largest spying scandals in history under his watch.

Obama 2007 vs Obama 2013 - NSA, FISA, and Patriot Act - YouTube

- He called Bush irresponsible and unpatriotic for adding $4 trillion to the debt in 8 years before he added $6 trillion in 4 years.

Obama says adding $4 trillion to debt is unpatriotic. - YouTube
 
Old 11-09-2014, 09:02 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated View Post
-Immigration - Obama has made it public he is holding off on immigration so that Congress can legislate it appropriately, which they haven't.

-Balance budget / Spending - Impossible for any administration. Balanced budgets are bad for the economy, due to modern money theory. They are simply bad economics. Here is the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities' stance on a Balanced Budget Amendment (hint, it will NEVER exist)

-Corruption is hardly limited to this Administration. It needs to be proven through impeachment proceedings.

-I already posted that our Foreign Policy is viewed more favorably than the previous administration.

-Obamacare has lowered the amount of uninsured in this country.


Back to the drawing board. Try to come up with correct answers instead of talking points.
To your first point: he only held off to try to help dems win their races. Now he says he will do a ammesty by end of this yesr if congress doesnt do something. Why by end of this yr? Because he knows if he does it after new senate is seated he will be impeached. Hes pressuring the outgoing senators to do this so he doesnt need to. Thst way he wont be impeached.
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