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View Poll Results: Should Obama be allowed to force through amnesty?
YES 14 7.33%
NO 177 92.67%
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Old 11-10-2014, 06:57 PM
 
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This kind of willful lying by liberals is one of the main reasons I can't support Democrats.

 
Old 11-10-2014, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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I know lots of white plumbers, and none looking for work. Is there an over supply of plumbers?
Not even close, since none of those illegals doing the new houses are in school, nor haven't went to school, they aren't plumbers. Where I live now there is a shortage, but that's due to the low pay since a lot of guys don't like doing service work, that's where immigrants really haven't made a push since customers like having someone in their home who speaks somewhat proper English, as opposed to Spanish.

I stay busy and had to go in my own to make any money, but it's a shame how many quality guys you would want working in your home that left the trades to how work at Home Depot, Lowes and even selling cars.
 
Old 11-10-2014, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Ahh stop. The illegals never, never, never get in legally. And we all agree on that. We do not need the Mexican peasant class in the US.

They come in illegal or not at all.

One could claim that they are the ones who show the American spirit...Climb over impossible odds...
Ahhh stop.
Actually many illegals are VISA overstays.... I think you know this already.
So some illegals do in fact get in legally.
Mexico of course is #1 for most legal immigrants allowed into our country.
Mexican peasant class. I'm sorry but we don't owe them anything. No not a thing, least of all a VISA. We do owe them accountability, as in holding them accountable.
 
Old 11-10-2014, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Pa
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We have a long history of Americans breaking the law in order to force reform. Our founding fathers, prohibition fighters, underground railroad operators.
Do you really want to regress?
What crimes should we reward because a lot of people don't believe in the law? I mean if we are going to reward foreigners for breaking our laws, it is only fair that we do it for citizens?

Out of curiosity why should we be the only country that rewards illegals?
 
Old 11-10-2014, 07:08 PM
 
Location: NJ
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No one knows what will be done, but it can only be things that are doable via E.O.s. The same E.O.s that have been used by all presidents in the modern era.
 
Old 11-10-2014, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Import the 3rd world, you become the 3rd world, it is that simple.
 
Old 11-10-2014, 07:44 PM
 
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Ahhh stop.
Actually many illegals are VISA overstays.... I think you know this already.
So some illegals do in fact get in legally.
Mexico of course is #1 for most legal immigrants allowed into our country.
Mexican peasant class. I'm sorry but we don't owe them anything. No not a thing, least of all a VISA. We do owe them accountability, as in holding them accountable.
Mexicans? Could be. So you agree we don't need to spend any more money securing the border?

They do not get in legally to stay...But we should have a really good system set up to run them down when they don't leave. When we get down to a few hundred thousand it may be feasible.

the Mexican Peasant class knows we are not going to give them a visa...that is why the cross illegally. You did not know that?
 
Old 11-10-2014, 07:47 PM
 
Location: NJ
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lilyflower, The Europeans we imported 100-150 years ago were quite similar to what you describe.3rd world.Not very educated, not very skilled..simply willing to work hard. The early 20th century version of day laborers, lettuce pickers,etc.
 
Old 11-10-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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Wow, so breaking laws is the "American Spirit"? Wow, just wow!
 
Old 11-10-2014, 08:03 PM
 
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Granting amnesty to illegal aliens is not changing or updating our immigration laws. It will still be against the law to come here illegally and always will be.
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