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Old 01-02-2015, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Old 01-02-2015, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Like I said, it would be for calm heads and the courts to decide, which is why we have courts and the judicial system.
I suppose the chain of events would be, to:
Contact your local reps
Contact your state reps
Contact the attorney general of the offending state.
Ask to keep posted about the events of their findings.
Get the media involved. The media are the gate keepers for all things sacred.

If things do not get settled, a federal lawsuit against the offending state.

A solution is litigated.
This was exactly the case with acid rain generated from plants in the west ending up in New England and other states, the clean air act was amended in the 90's to cover SO2 emissions.
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Old 01-02-2015, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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To think politics does not play a role in science is being naive. One of the most outspoken AGW alarmists is James Hansen from NASA who among other things referred to coal trains as nazi death trains and has been arrested at protests.

Thanks for not using Al Gore, yes that was an overstatement he probably could have softened down a bit but overall NASA is not a political animal.
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Old 01-02-2015, 07:04 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This was exactly the case with acid rain generated from plants in the west ending up in New England and other states, the clean air act was amended in the 90's to cover SO2 emissions.

Yes, the courts handled it. With congress taking action.
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Old 01-02-2015, 07:24 AM
 
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The GOP in their ongoing war on the environment and to make us more like developing countries will soon start their assault on environmetal regulations. Republican voters will soon get their wish for a new conservative agenda as laws regulating clean air and water will come under assault, which includes the dumping of toxins into the air, rivers and streams. You would think the so-called pro-life party would want to protect children and adults from cancer and abortion inducing toxins being dumped into the environment and the public domain, but go figure, they ostensibly have different priorities. Big donors need to be repaid.

Do you support the gutting of environmental laws or against?


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Becuase the EPA is out of control and they would have everyone drive a electric car untill they found the battiers to be toxic. Gut is a strong word. To make the EPA more friendly to business yes. One of the problems of our so call recovery is the EPA.
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Old 01-02-2015, 07:26 AM
 
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This was exactly the case with acid rain generated from plants in the west ending up in New England and other states, the clean air act was amended in the 90's to cover SO2 emissions.
Industry is very heavly regulated. So why is this a issue. The fact is our industries is 100 times more cleaner than we were in 1965 for example. Indusrty is actually helping in reclaiming industrial areas.. Like the mining in Bartow Florida and those mined areas is wildlife and rec. areas now.
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Old 01-02-2015, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Industry is very heavly regulated. So why is this a issue. The fact is our industries is 100 times more cleaner than we were in 1965 for example. Indusrty is actually helping in reclaiming industrial areas.. Like the mining in Bartow Florida and those mined areas is wildlife and rec. areas now.
There are plenty of examples of under regulation, Duke power comes to mind. We have heard the complaints about over regulation for decades, the US companies are actually doing quite well and we have one of the highest standards of living in the world. Waterways, especially drinking water is becoming an enormous issue. We have a long way to go.

Speaking of Florida Ocala National Park, Everglades, Silver Springs near Disney Land all in jeopardy along with the drinking water, rampant development and a lack of regulation is the cause.
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Old 01-02-2015, 10:23 AM
 
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So you liberals think that more regulation is the answer to so-called "environmental" causes and issues? Whatever happened to local and state decisions and the rest of us taking care of the environment? There's no need to federalize anything and the government doesn't have to have a hand in this. As it is, it's all overblown. The sun's still shining and the sky is still blue.
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Old 01-02-2015, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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So you liberals think that more regulation is the answer to so-called "environmental" causes and issues? Whatever happened to local and state decisions and the rest of us taking care of the environment?
Pollution tends to cross state lines.
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Old 01-02-2015, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Pollution tends to cross state lines.
...not to mention that state regulation is very ineffective and amounts in many cases to "don't do that again", think of the damage to the West Virginia water supply last year and look and the non-regulation in North Dakota.
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