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This quote from the article was utterly laughable:
"the right-wing echo chamber that dominates the American news media"
The right wing has Fox, talk radio and maybe a couple of newspapers like the WSJ.
The left wing has the major networks, the rest of the cable news channels, print media, most of the major newspapers and on and on.
It may be a mess, but what Bush left Obama was a disaster.
Bush wasn't responsible for the 2008 meltdown, he was merely the clown sitting on the house of cards when it finally collapsed. The root cause of the crisis was lax regulations on both lending and securities trading which has it's roots back in the 80's.
Here's a link for those who have trouble understanding the cause of the collapse:
As a Canadian, I don't think Obama is any better a President than Bush was. On 30 September 2008, the U.S. debt totaled $10,024,724,896,912.49. As of 30 September 2014, the debt totaled $17,824,071,380,733.82. Now, I'm not sure of what your definition of a "disaster" is, but managing to annually add over $1 trillion to the debt and being on track to double it by 2016 would certainly come close in my books. Obama's ultimate legacy will be one of crippling debt that your grandchildren will still be paying 50 years from now. As such, I fail to see why so many posters here seem to think he deserves praise for "cleaning up mess Bush left". He hasn't cleaned up anything. He has merely slapped a band-aid on hemorrhaging economy by mortgaging America's future on an ever-growing pile of endless debt.
If they see someone who needs healthcare, they endorse the klingon route
"the sick should die"
When it comes to to wages we think they want to pay us nothing and have us pay taxes on no earnings to finance some foreign war or give it as a gift to some corporation in the form of no bid contracts that pay them outrageous sums for sub par work or faulty products.
They are against abortions unless it involves some family member who "shamed themselves", then they are all for it.
They call themselves patriots, yet deny people they don't like the vote in the form of voter id laws claiming voter fraud. The laughable thing about this particular subject is that republican voters have been fooled into believing voter fraud exists. Someone who can't vote, probably doesn't want to, since identifying themselves (those who can't vote) in any way may jeopardize their livelihood because they work off the books or are undocumented etc.
I'm sure there are other examples. We didn't just dream this up out of the blue. This came out of policies republicans support.
I've always had this idea about a science fiction story where republicans colonize their own planet and their society (if you could call it that), only work for the very few super rich. The rest of them are poor, hungry, and hopeless. They want to leave, but aren't allowed to.
These ideas don't come out of thin air. Republican actions fuel these ideas. If republicans want people to have a better view of them as a political party, maybe they had better start acting like they had a heart.
I'd sooner win the lottery 10 times in a row while a bunch of monkeys randomly punch typewriter keys and produce the complete works of shakespeare.
Congratulutions, basically you've shown you know little aside what's coming from biased sources. Not surprising from someone who has also said:
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Than I would say to that that conservatives have a collective IQ of about 3. And that is being generous.
Oh, and other western countries have things like voter ID and enforced immigration laws. The horror!
So, I really don't care what you think. Keep on being ignorant for all I care.
I don't think Americans realize that most of the world actually really likes Obama.
I have travelled to quite a few places where Bush was absolutely reviled and yet Obama has always been thought of as a step in the right direction. If anything, he isn't enough of a step in the right direction.
I have yet to see a single action that he has taken that deserves the reaction the right has had to his presidency.
He tries to bring the US in line with all of the other first world nations in terms of health care, right wingers get angry. He restores the economy, right wingers get angry. Unemployment goes way way down, right wingers get angry. Their outrage seems to be mostly this: 'OMG SOCIALISM, OMG IT WILL CRASH TOMORROW JUST YOU WAIT, OMG THESE ARE PROBABLY BAD JOBS WE WANT GOOD JOBS'.
It's pretty obvious that the reason the right attacks him so viciously is because he has been successful, and they hate him for it.
The GOP is an embarrassment to the US. I can think of no other political party in the world that would ever allow itself to devolve into such a freakshow.
It's a result of the Democrats having moved so far to the right during Reagan that they've pushed the GOP into a circus freakshow that is pretty much on the same level as the Weimer-era Nazis in terms of being both terrifying and ridiculous.
The only people in Canada who hate Obama are the oil workers, who think everyone should be buying their oil and also need it to be more expensive so they can actually almost justify destroying the planet in order to sell it.
You can't look at the situation and judge Obama on that.
You have to judge him based on how he acted when he was faced with that situation, and in that respect, his performance has been well above average. He dealt with the crisis in the best way. Debt isn't as serious as total economic collapse.
Bush was a nightmare largely because of Iraq, his environmental record, and No Child Left Behind. All 3 of those things are going to have serious, long term negative effects on the world and the US, and all 3 of them are directly the result of his having been elected over Gore or Kerry. His complacency on economic issues didn't help anyone either... but to be fair, his presidency was the culmination of the free market capitalist kool aid and everyone was pretty much drinking it.
However nothing like the three aforementioned things occurred during Obama's presidency. You can't pretend ACA, Benghazi, bowing to the Japanese Emperor or chewing gum in China is in any way comparable to the loss of life, the economic toll, the security threats and the global havoc that is a direct result of the Iraq War, and the worst thing about it is that it will probably continue to rage well into the late 2010s or 2020s. You can't pretend that Obama has screwed with the education system making it impossible for underfunded schools in poor areas to offer anything close to the standard that wealthier ones will receive. You can't pretend that Obama hasn't at least tried to improve the environment whereas Bush was keen on destroying it.
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Bush wasn't responsible for the 2008 meltdown, he was merely the clown sitting on the house of cards when it finally collapsed. The root cause of the crisis was lax regulations on both lending and securities trading which has it's roots back in the 80's.
Here's a link for those who have trouble understanding the cause of the collapse:
As a Canadian, I don't think Obama is any better a President than Bush was. On 30 September 2008, the U.S. debt totaled $10,024,724,896,912.49. As of 30 September 2014, the debt totaled $17,824,071,380,733.82. Now, I'm not sure of what your definition of a "disaster" is, but managing to annually add over $1 trillion to the debt and being on track to double it by 2016 would certainly come close in my books. Obama's ultimate legacy will be one of crippling debt that your grandchildren will still be paying 50 years from now. As such, I fail to see why so many posters here seem to think he deserves praise for "cleaning up mess Bush left". He hasn't cleaned up anything. He has merely slapped a band-aid on hemorrhaging economy by mortgaging America's future on an ever-growing pile of endless debt.
You have to judge him based on how he acted when he was faced with that situation, and in that respect, his performance has been well above average. He dealt with the crisis in the best way. Debt isn't as serious as total economic collapse.
Doubling the national debt in 8 years to a staggering 20 trillion is not a good thing no matter what kind of spin you put on it. That debt cannot keep growing forever, and when the time comes when the shylocks need to be paid I doubt you'll still be singing about Obama's virtues.
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Bush was a nightmare largely because of Iraq, his environmental record, and No Child Left Behind. All 3 of those things are going to have serious, long term negative effects on the world and the US, and all 3 of them are directly the result of his having been elected over Gore or Kerry.
While I see your points about Iraq and the environment, I have no idea why you see higher educational standards as a negative thing. The Mike Harris Tories of the 1990's imposed a similar program here in Ontario and it has largely been accepted as a success by everyone but the teachers unions (big surprise there).
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His complacency on economic issues didn't help anyone either... but to be fair, his presidency was the culmination of the free market capitalist kool aid and everyone was pretty much drinking it.
Clinton was just as complacent as Bush when it came to lax regulations on securities trading and sub-prime lending. The perfect storm that resulted in the 2008 meltdown had been brewing since the Reagan era. I don't think Bush was a good President by any means, but that does not mean I am going to blame him for things that were not directly his fault.
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However nothing like the three aforementioned things occurred during Obama's presidency. You can't pretend ACA, Benghazi, bowing to the Japanese Emperor or chewing gum in China is in any way comparable to the loss of life, the economic toll, the security threats and the global havoc that is a direct result of the Iraq War, and the worst thing about it is that it will probably continue to rage well into the late 2010s or 2020s. You can't pretend that Obama has screwed with the education system making it impossible for underfunded schools in poor areas to offer anything close to the standard that wealthier ones will receive. You can't pretend that Obama hasn't at least tried to improve the environment whereas Bush was keen on destroying it.
You may want to ask the people living with the negative effects of fracking how Obama's environmental policies are working for them. The picture is nowhere as rosy as you are painting it.
As for the constant political turmoil in the Middle East... While Bush's Iraqi invasion certainly destabilized that country for years to come, you can't seriously be claiming that Obama has had any better a track record in that part of the world. His backing of Syrian rebels and ordering airstrikes against ISIS has had no more an effect on bringing peace to that part of the world than Dubya's Desert Storm part deaux. In fact, many believe that ISIS is an even bigger threat than al Qaeda, and their numbers are growing daily because of Obama's policies, not in spite of them.
First look at the source,,,It's just another democrat,,in the USA thats crying over the thumping their dear leader took.
Written and delivered on a liberal web page..It's another LOL moment...Desperate and destitute,broken and bitter cry babies that have no where to go...
Here's a hankie,,go blow your nose....
If you like your healthcare you can keep it.......best lie of the century....
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