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Old 11-13-2014, 04:00 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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This is the great irony with black conservatives;

You would think the misguided conservative values would unite blacks and whites.

Then you realize... a white conservative racist will never accept you. It is what it is.
You will be accepted when the black underclass stop acting like animals and stop resorting to violence to solve everything. IE, Ferguson.
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Old 11-13-2014, 04:07 AM
 
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If someone has not caused physical harm to you, then you have absolutely no right to assault them for words! Why belittle yourself? Why risk it backfiring on you, where YOU end up being harmed, killed, or in prison, where your whole livelihood is thrown down the tubes because of some a-hole who is obviously insecure himself? Again all it does is feed into the stereotype.



Really? Because I see no difference. We're still involved in the Middle East. We're still bombing people over there, and we are sticking our nose in to their affairs even more which is further destabilizing that region. We still have the Patriot Act and all of the other unConstitutional agencies that have come with it. We still have the war on drugs. You were saying?
Yea, not much difference is there.
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Old 11-13-2014, 06:29 AM
 
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Why would you bet that? Cracker is such a wack dated term. I'd bet good money that they don't even bother.

When they called you cracker did it make you question what you'd done wrong? Did you wonder if you looked like a bad person out a thug? Did you wonder if you looked like those other crackers on the wrong side of the tracks?
No, but it did make me realize that the person calling me a name meant to demean me.

But, because I've been taught about the real world, I know it's their problem, not mine.
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:08 AM
 
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Why would you bet that? Cracker is such a wack dated term. I'd bet good money that they don't even bother.

When they called you cracker did it make you question what you'd done wrong? Did you wonder if you looked like a bad person out a thug? Did you wonder if you looked like those other crackers on the wrong side of the tracks?
I love the double standards people like you preach.
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Old 11-13-2014, 08:02 AM
 
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I love the double standards people like you preach.
Did I preach a double standard or did I question the equivalence of a pair of words? I didn't say that cracker wasn't meant as a racist term. I questioned if it had the same connotations our impact as the N word. Yes, words shouldn't hurt people but they do and some carry more weight than others. Call a woman raised to think that c@nt is a slur that word and see if they just let it slide off their backs. Try calling that same women something like a douche and let me know if it has the same weight.


Perhaps if you stopped trying to lump me in with one group or another and assuming that you know my every thought because that's how "people like you" think we might be able to have a discussion. I am guilty of it from time to time but find that things on here are far more productive if I don't.
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Old 11-13-2014, 08:03 AM
 
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No, but it did make me realize that the person calling me a name meant to demean me.

But, because I've been taught about the real world, I know it's their problem, not mine.
That's nice that you have such emotional control and no one can push your buttons. If only we were all built so Ford tough.
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Old 11-13-2014, 08:07 AM
 
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From the Washington Post.

I taught my black kids that their elite upbringing would protect them from discrimination. I was wrong. - The Washington Post

What say you, White Male Republicans who think that the worst form of racism today is affirmative action and minorities accusing Whites of racism?
yeah, that was pretty stupid of him.
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Old 11-13-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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Did I preach a double standard or did I question the equivalence of a pair of words? I didn't say that cracker wasn't meant as a racist term. I questioned if it had the same connotations our impact as the N word. Yes, words shouldn't hurt people but they do and some carry more weight than others. Call a woman raised to think that c@nt is a slur that word and see if they just let it slide off their backs. Try calling that same women something like a douche and let me know if it has the same weight.


Perhaps if you stopped trying to lump me in with one group or another and assuming that you know my every thought because that's how "people like you" think we might be able to have a discussion. I am guilty of it from time to time but find that things on here are far more productive if I don't.
Yes you are preaching a double standard.

Reacting to one with disgust while attempting to explain away another is preaching a double standard.

I did not like the numerous slurs thrown at me during my time in an urban public school system. The fact that I am in the statistical majority did not diminish the insults.

So there it is- a teachable moment for you.
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Old 11-13-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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Did I preach a double standard or did I question the equivalence of a pair of words? I didn't say that cracker wasn't meant as a racist term. I questioned if it had the same connotations our impact as the N word. Yes, words shouldn't hurt people but they do and some carry more weight than others. Call a woman raised to think that c@nt is a slur that word and see if they just let it slide off their backs. Try calling that same women something like a douche and let me know if it has the same weight.
It's boorish vulgarity meant to make a person feel bad. Are you really trying to quantify which is the worst sort? So this black kid of much privilege being called the N-word is worse than me taking a beating on the playground for being the new kid who wears glasses and rocks 100% on math tests? You being called the N-word is somehow more hateful than a fat girl being called tubby by some jackass? The effeminate teenage boy who isn't gay but gets call the F-word all the time (and every school has this poor guy)...that person feels less bad than a black person called the N-word?

It's preposterous to try and claim Most Aggrieved Status, because the countless people who have had some vulgar jackass make them feel horrible for something about themselves KNOW EXACTLY how that black kid felt, and you insult everyone one of them by trying to say your hurt trumps their hurt simply because race is the bugaboo du jour in the national psyche.

No, the word cracker probably doesn't mean much to your average white person. But there are countless pejoratives to use other than race, and all are designed with the same purpose as your beloved N-word - to make another person feel bad about themselves.
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Old 11-13-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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Indeed. It had the same impact on my that it should have on this young man. You learn a lesson that there are people out there who are no damn good.

However, it did not ruin my life or make me hate black people. Nor should it run this lad's life and make him hate whites.

He has had an upsetting experience. Guess what? There will be more. Of all types. That is LIFE.
I don't think anyone is saying his life is ruined.

This is just a Father telling how he was delusional for trying to insulate his child from the fact's of life
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