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Old 11-13-2014, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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basic human rights:

28 Fundamental Principles of the Founding Fathers

not PC rights, real human rights.

Principle 6 - All mankind were created equal. The Founders knew that in these three ways, all mankind are theoretically treated as: 1. Equal before God. 2. Equal before the law. 3. Equal in their rights.

From your list.
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Old 11-13-2014, 12:56 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Principle 6 - All mankind were created equal. The Founders knew that in these three ways, all mankind are theoretically treated as: 1. Equal before God. 2. Equal before the law. 3. Equal in their rights.

From your list.

exactly my point.

self defense is also a right and needed to have freedom.

both the states and the feds make laws against that fundamental right, and make no qualms about it whatsoever.
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:27 PM
 
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just like a liberal when they are losing the arguement. start accusing people that they have no idea of what they are talking about, or to start calling them names.

with you it is the former instead of the latter.

this argument is over as you just lost.
The fact that SSM is becoming law, proves that it is you who have lost.

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exactly my point.

self defense is also a right and needed to have freedom.

both the states and the feds make laws against that fundamental right, and make no qualms about it whatsoever.
What does self-defense have to do with allowing SSM? Seems like you're derailing the topic, as you have no effective argument.
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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To not be discriminated against because you happen to be homosexual is a human right.
From a purely Constitutional focus, SCOTUS has not yet decided this is so. With the conflicting appeals court decisions, SCOTUS will finally have to take up the issue.

Of note, AG Wilson for South Carolina is appealing this decision quoting the 78% of the electorate being against gay marriage as the rationale. His appeal is likely to fail because he this falls under the 4th Circuit which has previously ruled on the issue. AG Wilson's claim is that SC's law differs enough from the previously decided one.
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Old 11-13-2014, 06:27 PM
 
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From a purely Constitutional focus, SCOTUS has not yet decided this is so.
The Supreme Court most certainly has addressed this question on several occasions: Romer v. Evans, Lawrence v. Texas, United States v. Windsor.
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