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Old 11-12-2014, 05:39 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Is it just me or did anyone notice the OP is from LA and saying this? I seem to recall more than one Jay Leno people on the streets segment where they said equally stupid things. Like the others said, it's not a Texas problem. It's bigger than that.


Yes, I have seen the same results in California and the Northeast, but the ignorant will only see what they want to see, and the ignorant reference about Republicans too. I guess the OP missed all of the uninformed Democrat videos going around.
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Old 11-12-2014, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Great Republicans? I didn't hear her ask if they were Republicans.
No I do remember a Youtube clip where people Obama supporters were asked questions, only the reporter reversed the positions of Romney and Obama and the people questioned agreed with Romney's positions when they thought that they were Obama's.
I remember another clip where college students were asked questions about our country.
How many stars on our flag, How many stripes etc and the college students couldn't answer the questions.
I didn't assume all college students were morons, nor that all Obama supporters were so ill informed. I assumed that the reports were extremely edited to make certain groups look bad.
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Old 11-12-2014, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Globalization folks...no recall of American History.
Global people living in a global world working with global peers and allegiance to no one.

Rote teaching was deemed ineffective. This is the product of that.
I grew up with rote teaching. I can go back to Columbus and the various explorers as well as Generals in the Civil War.

Sherman's march for one. Memorizing and rote teaching is what keeps those facts in my mind.

This is not a Texas issue at all. This is a US issue and this is what public education has begot.

None of that makes any sense. I'm not sure where you came up with your analysis but it is about as accurate as the answers I just heard from these college students.

BTW, "rote teaching" is the worst way to remember anything. It stresses memorization over understanding. The best way to remember anything is by understanding it.
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Old 11-12-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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None of that makes any sense. I'm not sure where you came up with your analysis but it is about as accurate as the answers I just heard from these college students.

BTW, "rote teaching" is the worst way to remember anything. It stresses memorization over understanding. The best way to remember anything is by understanding it.
That's why none of those college students could even say who won the Civil War.
No "memorizing" their facts.
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Old 11-12-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Is it just me or did anyone notice the OP is from LA and saying this? I seem to recall more than one Jay Leno people on the streets segment where they said equally stupid things. Like the others said, it's not a Texas problem. It's bigger than that.

I'm born and raised in D/FW, moved to NC this year since my daughter lives here. It seems most people I meet back home are from Cali. Matter of fact, I seriously doubt the majority of D/FW are native Texans.
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Old 11-12-2014, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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That's why none of those college students could even say who won the Civil War.
No "memorizing" their facts.
If they memorized it was the "North" or the "Union", versus the "South", or the "Confederacy" that won the Civil War, they are quite likely to confuse either answer and blurt out one or the other if their learning was achieved through rote teaching.

However, if they know who Abraham Lincoln and Jefferson Davis were, if they understood the significance of Vicksburg, Gettysburg and Petersburg, if they knew which side the great General's Lee, Jackson, Sherman and Grant fought for, if they knew what took place at Appomattox and which direction Sherman's march went in they would laugh at such an absurdly easy question.

But they didn't know any of that, and they would not remember any of it through rote memorization. It's the same with mathematics, you cannot use rote memorization to remember algebraic equations, because you would never understand them in the first place.

In America, you don't have to be remotely intelligent to be either rich or a college graduate. That video is really sad to watch. I bet more people find it entertaining than they do a sad spectacle.
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Old 11-12-2014, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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The sad thing is that their vote count the same as mine, maybe literacy tests have a purpose after all.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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They must have moved from up North.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:50 PM
 
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I proudly know next to nothing about American history or the Constitution!

At this point in the Country's downfall, does it really matter?

I can see where present day Murrrrca stands, that is my reality, that is what matters to me and
it ain't purr-teee!
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:09 PM
 
Location: OC/LA
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Is it just me or did anyone notice the OP is from LA and saying this? I seem to recall more than one Jay Leno people on the streets segment where they said equally stupid things. Like the others said, it's not a Texas problem. It's bigger than that.
I can assure you that a much higher percentage of my undergraduate university would be able to answer those questions compared to the students polled at Texas Tech.
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